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12-20-2014, 09:28 AM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Big Apple,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Nissan
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Cobra replica alum body by Alloycars on ebay
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12-20-2014, 11:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,316
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Their turnkey car with small block ford engine is $98,950.00.
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The roller version is $76,650.00.
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The ebay page says it is VIN #1. Does anyone with that kind of money want to be the first customer? Or would you prefer to go the safe route with a Kirkham instead?
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12-20-2014, 12:16 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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I went to their live feed cameras. Here's a rip from a car currently being built. The hip curves and rear don't look right. 
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12-20-2014, 12:18 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and Scratch 427 S/C
Posts: 18,797
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I agree.
Wonder if the use a CSX buck or one from a glass replica. ?
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12-20-2014, 12:22 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and Scratch 427 S/C
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I do like the Porsche alloy car though.
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12-20-2014, 02:07 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,462
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Wasn't there a guy who worked for this place putting out "if I build it would you buy it" feelers a while ago?
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12-20-2014, 02:51 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Allen,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Werk77 289FIA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
I went to their live feed cameras. Here's a rip from a car currently being built. The hip curves and rear don't look right.
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Looks like (including the perky butt) a Factory 5 Mk. III and they use the same Quick Jacks as FF5.
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Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
DRB GT40 MK1 red #49- sold
FF5 Mk4 #7733 302/T5/IRS - dark blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #7812 427/TKO/IRS - Guardsman Blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #8414 501/TKO600/48IDA Ollie the Dragon #91 - sold
FF5 Daytona Coupe 347/TKO/IRS Homage CSX2299 Viking Blue - sold
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12-20-2014, 03:04 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
Wonder if the use a CSX buck or one from a glass replica. ?
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Not a CSX or accurate otherwise. The closeup of the front shows a bevel or raised collar around the turn signal. Among other things. And that roll bar...
I never understood. You go to all that trouble, might as well make it accurate.
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Last edited by rodneym; 12-20-2014 at 03:18 PM..
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12-20-2014, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Redding,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR chassis and suspension, Mr. Bruce 289 FIA body
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Still not bad looking
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12-20-2014, 04:43 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-FIA, 66 mustang convertible, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Still not bad looking
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But not worth the asking price for what it is vs what a comparable Kirkham cost.
Bill S.
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12-20-2014, 06:24 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Allen,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Werk77 289FIA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
I never understood. You go to all that trouble, might as well make it accurate.
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Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
DRB GT40 MK1 red #49- sold
FF5 Mk4 #7733 302/T5/IRS - dark blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #7812 427/TKO/IRS - Guardsman Blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #8414 501/TKO600/48IDA Ollie the Dragon #91 - sold
FF5 Daytona Coupe 347/TKO/IRS Homage CSX2299 Viking Blue - sold
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12-20-2014, 06:52 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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Hmmm. Sure looks like one of ours to me???
Gents,
Sorry for the long delay in posting. It has been a very busy year for us here at Kirkham Motorsports.
After looking at this image on eBay I really think this is a picture of one of our machines. There are some very, very subtle shapes and things I think really gives it away. I have no idea who these people are. I have never heard of them.
As with any purchase...I think verification may be advised.
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12-20-2014, 06:55 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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After looking further at the other listed photos on the same eBay sale I think it is evident the body in the main picture and the other pictured body in the listing are quite different from each other. I really think the main picture is of our machine.
David
Last edited by David Kirkham; 12-20-2014 at 08:42 PM..
Reason: clarification
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12-20-2014, 07:11 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Daytona Coupe
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From the ebay add:
Please note the picture is flipped. Goodyear lettering on tires is flipped. The gas cap is on the wrong side of the car for both England as well as the USA.
Now here is the image flipped back. Note how much easier it is to read Goodyear on the tires.
Some observations: Hood scoop, rear fender lips, front fender flares, oil cooler scoop, headlight support area, all look very different in the photos of the uncompleted car in the ebay ad photos vs. the above photos. Logo on the front hub cap looks very familiar. Exhaust system is also very unique to Kirkham Motorsports.
I do not work for Kirkham Motorsports
Last edited by Tom Kirkham; 12-20-2014 at 07:20 PM..
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12-20-2014, 08:38 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Tucson,
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The company is Alloycars Inc. I'm familiar with them and their 550 Spyder. It is extremely accurate, even down to the rivet pattern on body panels. Original factory drawings were used to build the replica. It's very nice and very accurate!
As for the Cobra replica though, I don't know anything about it.
Alloycars Porsche 550 Spyder aluminum replica / Kit Cars
Larry
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12-20-2014, 09:16 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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So search for them in the forum. There are two topics from a guy that worked for them and was going to take his work out on his own looking to size the market. I'd run away from this
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CSX4005LA
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12-20-2014, 09:25 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Northern,
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Cobra Make, Engine: LA Exotics
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Alloycars looking for opinions
"our molds came from some un-named kit body that was available (never assembled) at the time. "
Last edited by Paul F; 12-20-2014 at 09:38 PM..
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12-21-2014, 12:30 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
Posts: 2,286
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Kirkham
I do not work for Kirkham Motorsports
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Well more importantly, this is news to me...
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12-21-2014, 01:05 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Leicestershire,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #523, 427 S/O
Posts: 1,137
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis
Well more importantly, this is news to me...
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Keep up. 
Tom hasn't worked for KMS for quite some time now. If I recall correctly, he was working on an off-road vehicle project with some very trick suspension.
Paul
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12-21-2014, 04:44 AM
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Abnormal CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
So search for them in the forum. There are two topics from a guy that worked for them and was going to take his work out on his own looking to size the market. I'd run away from this
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I don't know about running away from them, since it looks like they are an established company with their Porche 550 replica.
However there are a number of things to consider:
- Apparently they are selling their first Cobra replica and it is not finished yet, but they have pictures on their website of completed cars, which obviously is NOT their car. I think David is being polite saying that the picture of the polished car from the eBay ad is probably a Kirkham. That picture is clearly a finished Kirkham. The picture of the blue car on their website looks like a FFR to me. The black car looks like a CSX4000 in front of the Shelby Vegas building.
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- Their car is not as "authentic" as a Kirkham:
-- Their frame is not authentic, like a Kirkham frame. They are using a FFR frame.
-- The hood scoop looks wrong.
-- FFR style trunk hinges (as seen in live picture grabbed by patrickt)
-- Rear wheel arches look odd in picture below (but that could just be the lighting?)
-- Headlights and oil cooler scoop look a little odd to me (maybe its just the focal length of the lens used to take the picture?)
Let's think about value for dollar compared to a Kirkham roller:
- This car has a solid rear axle standard versus Kirkham independent rear suspension.
- This car has a FFR frame with presumably compatible suspension components from a Mustang (I guess) versus Kirkham with authentic frame, billet suspension, Wilwood brakes, etc.
- What is the finish on this car (painted?, filed?, brushed?, polished?) for their price versus we know the prices for a Kirkham for filed, brushed or polished.
There is not enough detail from their website to really figure out yet what their car is worth compared to what we know gets delivered by Kirkham.
Last edited by 1ntCobra; 12-21-2014 at 04:53 AM..
Reason: added a few more things...
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