Cobra replica alum body by Alloycars on ebay

[Buzz]

When a crowd goes rabid and thirsts for blood people have no interest in the truth and just keep chanting the same stuff over and over.

Mr. Mustang was right to call Tom on using other people's photos as representative of their product.
Tom was wrong to react by lashing out with insults instead of admitting his mistake.

Mr. Mustang was wrong when he accused Ingo of lying and being the same person as Tom when he came on to apologise and do damage control.
Ingo was right to be pissed off and react accordingly to the repeated false accusation. Who among us would take that lying down? I sure wouldn't.

If apologies are in order they need to go both ways.

As for the questions about production - it's all in the threads. They state that they used to produce a not so accurate alloy body for the South American market but stopped years ago. This is a new project using FFR chassis with only one MKIII based prototype body produced. A more accurate version is in the works.

Statements made by Tom are being attributed to Ingo and this is wrong. Tom screwed up here and disciplinary action has been taken - he was fired from the sales/marketing position but is being retained in another capacity in the shop.

People need to take a step back and chill out on the pack mentality started in response to Tom's mistakes. Ingo is obviously NOT Tom and shouldn't continue to be treated as though he is.

[mrmustang]

Buzz,

Ingo and Tom are one and the same person. For Ingo is the only one who has direct access to make changes on his web server, and do so almost instantly. "Tom" may actually be an employee here, but not the person that started here and on Ebay due to that instant access to the web server. "Tom" is the fall guy being used by Ingo as an excuse so Ingo can attempt to save face. If you look at the writing style of both, you can clearly see they are one and the same. Just like the continued denial of ever using anyone elses pictures (they are on the server still, I can point you to specific files if you like), and the Kirkham supplied, Blue Moon Motorsports built FFR MK II Chassis car they are currently stating is their own.

Other than that, have a happy new year.


Bill S.

Originally Posted by Buzz

When a crowd goes rabid and thirsts for blood people have no interest in the truth and just keep chanting the same stuff over and over.

Mr. Mustang was right to call Tom on using other people's photos as representative of their product.
Tom was wrong to react by lashing out with insults instead of admitting his mistake.

Mr. Mustang was wrong when he accused Ingo of lying and being the same person as Tom when he came on to apologise and do damage control.
Ingo was right to be pissed off and react accordingly to the repeated false accusation. Who among us would take that lying down? I sure wouldn't.

If apologies are in order they need to go both ways.

As for the questions about production - it's all in the threads. They state that they used to produce a not so accurate alloy body for the South American market but stopped years ago. This is a new project using FFR chassis with only one MKIII based prototype body produced. A more accurate version is in the works.

Statements made by Tom are being attributed to Ingo and this is wrong. Tom screwed up here and disciplinary action has been taken - he was fired from the sales/marketing position but is being retained in another capacity in the shop.

People need to take a step back and chill out on the pack mentality started in response to Tom's mistakes. Ingo is obviously NOT Tom and shouldn't continue to be treated as though he is.

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Buzz,

Ingo and Tom are one and the same person. For Ingo is the only one who has direct access to make changes on his web server, and do so almost instantly. "Tom" may actually be an employee here, but not the person that started here and on Ebay due to that instant access to the web server. "Tom" is the fall guy being used by Ingo as an excuse so Ingo can attempt to save face. If you look at the writing style of both, you can clearly see they are one and the same. Just like the continued denial of ever using anyone elses pictures (they are on the server still, I can point you to specific files if you like), and the Kirkham supplied, Blue Moon Motorsports built FFR MK II Chassis car they are currently stating is their own.

Other than that, have a happy new year.


Bill S.

What to heck is a MKII? But you are right....dont forget your medicine. And yes, you are currently on the BLUE MOON

[Alloycars]

Originally Posted by Buzz

When a crowd goes rabid and thirsts for blood people have no interest in the truth and just keep chanting the same stuff over and over.

Mr. Mustang was right to call Tom on using other people's photos as representative of their product.
Tom was wrong to react by lashing out with insults instead of admitting his mistake.

Mr. Mustang was wrong when he accused Ingo of lying and being the same person as Tom when he came on to apologise and do damage control.
Ingo was right to be pissed off and react accordingly to the repeated false accusation. Who among us would take that lying down? I sure wouldn't.

If apologies are in order they need to go both ways.

As for the questions about production - it's all in the threads. They state that they used to produce a not so accurate alloy body for the South American market but stopped years ago. This is a new project using FFR chassis with only one MKIII based prototype body produced. A more accurate version is in the works.

Statements made by Tom are being attributed to Ingo and this is wrong. Tom screwed up here and disciplinary action has been taken - he was fired from the sales/marketing position but is being retained in another capacity in the shop.

People need to take a step back and chill out on the pack mentality started in response to Tom's mistakes. Ingo is obviously NOT Tom and shouldn't continue to be treated as though he is.

The day I came back and have seen this add I have sent a letter for apologize to mrmustang for the misbehavior of TOM. And Tom will be present at the next show too and he will apologize to those members he replied in a mad manner. But after I have seen that mrmustang used my apology as a weakness I really want to kick his butt as far as possible.
Never ever I have seen such a nosy girly person talking about what he absolutely doesnt understand, absolutely no knowledge...but keeping talking crap and crap and crap.
Anyway, I came over it. A shame someone like this sits in a Cobra.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Alloycars

The day I came back and have seen this add I have sent a letter for apologize to mrmustang for the misbehavior of TOM. And Tom will be present at the next show too and he will apologize to those members he replied in a mad manner. But after I have seen that mrmustang used my apology as a weakness I really want to kick his butt as far as possible.
Never ever I have seen such a nosy girly person talking about what he absolutely doesnt understand, absolutely no knowledge...but keeping talking crap and crap and crap.
Anyway, I came over it. A shame someone like this sits in a Cobra.

You sent a letter of apology ?

Your response to me is posted in this thread for all to see, along with my response, and your response after that.

As for credibility, your lack of a response tom the very simple questions I asked a day ago in post #220 of this thread would have gone a long way to repairing yours. Your lack of a response to them spoke loudly to many members here.


Bill S.