selling a Cobra with a Chevy.

[joyridin']

Originally Posted by REAL 1

To the politically correct I wouldn't expect my comments to mean anything. To the politically correct its all warm and fuzzy and free exchange of ideas and its "all wonderful" when right and wrong is black and white. Here it's black and white.

Political correctness is crap and is in large part responsible for where our country is today on more counts than you can shake a stick at. You can take your political correctness and ...well ..

Yes, by all means. Go down your own path and pursue it to the extreme. Pursuing the Chebby option for power in a car that is supposed to replicate a Shelby Cobra is certainly going down a path but its a path going the wrong direction.

Where does it stop. Might as well use a VW chassis. What about Pontiac power? Chrysler Hemi power? Yeah. That's cool. White walls. Very classy. Digital gauges, bucket seats with head rests. Its all good!

The idea of a "replicar" is to replicate last I checked. Otherwise it's not a replicar is it? Its a ???????? But hey, its your interpretation so it must be beautiful.

That has to be the most idiotic comment so far.

YOU WIN!!

[Thor maine]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

To the politically correct I wouldn't expect my comments to mean anything. To the politically correct its all warm and fuzzy and free exchange of ideas and its "all wonderful" when right and wrong is black and white. Here it's black and white.

Political correctness is crap and is in large part responsible for where our country is today on more counts than you can shake a stick at. You can take your political correctness and ...well ..

Yes, by all means. Go down your own path and pursue it to the extreme. Pursuing the Chebby option for power in a car that is supposed to replicate a Shelby Cobra is certainly going down a path but its a path going the wrong direction.

Where does it stop. Might as well use a VW chassis. What about Pontiac power? Chrysler Hemi power? Yeah. That's cool. White walls. Very classy. Digital gauges, bucket seats with head rests. Its all good!

The idea of a "replicar" is to replicate last I checked. Otherwise it's not a replicar is it? Its a ???????? But hey, its your interpretation so it must be beautiful.

"Where does it STOP????" We have Dogs and Cats living together,,, Mass Hysteria!!!

[Karl Bebout]

I wondered why "real1" didn't mention that venerable 390 boat anchor and the sewing machine 221. Never heard of a mighty 406 going into an original by Shelby.

[REAL 1]

I should have mentioned 390 FE. Likely forgot about it since it was never used in a production Cobra.

My bad.

[Thor maine]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

I should have mentioned 390 FE. Likely forgot about it since it was never used in a production Cobra.

My bad.

And the 221???

[rodneym]

221's never made it.
By the time Shelby got an engine for CSX2000, it had a 260.

[Thor maine]

In the world of Shelby-AC-Ford from the "what if" thru prototype, production, competition , was used221, 260,289,390,427,428 just to stay true.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

In the world of Shelby-AC-Ford from the "what if" thru prototype, production, competition , was used221, 260,289,390,427,428 just to stay true.

Instead of parsing out or establishing the omissions (or not) in Evan's post above, I'd like to hear more about the almost "fist fight" with your buyer. Inquiring minds want to know.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

In the world of Shelby-AC-Ford from the "what if" thru prototype, production, competition , was used221, 260,289,390,427,428 just to stay true.

Thanks for pointing out my omissions as to the nitty gritty fine details. However, no matter how far we dig, parse, peel, slice, dice or expose to microscopic examination and evaluation will there ever be any trace of Chebby power in any Shelby Cobra.

Lets not try to turn silk into a sows ear. Yes, I reversed it.

[rodneym]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

In the world of Shelby-AC-Ford from the "what if" thru prototype, production, competition , was used221, 260,289,390,427,428 just to stay true.

The 221 may have been used for fitting, but it never made it in the car that was born in Moon's shop, or driven by the press, or displayed at car shows, or that ever dreaded thing called 'production'.

But, if it makes you feel better, I'll add the 221 to the list of engines I'd rather have than a Chevy.


All in good fun.

[patrickt]

I'm still not clear on who almost threw a punch at whom....

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I'm still not clear on who almost threw a punch at whom....

Who really gives an $hit about political correctness and Chevy-powered Cobras. Evan is not an idiot for expressing his views on replicas and Cobra buyers/builders can do what ever they want to their Cobras, because they have freedom of expression as well.

No one here in the USA says we all have to get the same haircut.

I want to know more about Thor's sale that almost went sour and who almost got "clocked."

[Thor maine]

I think you have to say the 221 was the engine that started the whole thing. It was the engine that made Shelby contact Ford and AC. It was the engine that was first shipped to England, the first fitted into and driven by AC , the first that made everyone think it was possible and fitted first into what became CSX2000, and yes the first to removed and upgraded by the 260. A lot of firsts enough that I think it should be included in the lineup of Shelby engines.

[blykins]

Thor, the way I see it is that you're getting what you wanted. You had the opportunity to let it die out several months ago, but decided to stoke the fire one more time.

There are several topics on Club Cobra that never end in anything but war...you've been here for almost 9 years, you should be fully aware of that.

[Thor maine]

Blykins, I like a spirited debate it is healthy for all. I thought that I started this line I should add to it the day the new owner took delivery of the car. But we all got the old the only true engines in a Cobra are the Ford 260, 289, 427, and the 428, period. I added that Shelby also had a couple of other engines that he used the 221 which was used by AC for prototype , and the 390 which was used in the Flip Top or The Turd. All Fords but if you wanted a correct replica would also have provenance. That's all I did, I did not reignite the Chevy in a Cobra(or my HotRod that is shaped like a Cobra) debate again.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

That's all I did not reignite the Chevy in a Cobra(or my HotRod that is shaped like a Cobra) debate again.

Brent and Evan just need a little vacation. They've both been working too hard.

[Thor maine]

Real 1 , do you ever order off the menu??? At Burger King "have it your way" only as long as it is the way stated on the menu board??? Do you always salute and perform in proficient Military manner, by the book??? (and I think there only 5 Grand Sports made and that was 1963 and the current rendition of AC cars put Chevy engines in there continuation Cobra.) What's next Dogs and Cats living together, Mass Hysteria???

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

At Burger King "have it your way" only as long as it is the way stated on the menu board???

I don't care if you're Cobra replica has a Chevy engine in it or not.

But when did Burger King begin selling one of the most iconic cars in history on their menu. The analogy sucks!

[Thor maine]

The Burger King analogy was about Real 1's limited imagination. The Corvette Grand Sport was a correction, they were produced in 1963 and 1966 Not 1965.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

The Burger King analogy was about Real 1's limited imagination.

How much imagination is there in ordering a burger? Is there some sort of secret menu, where you can get, wait a second, a veggie burger made with quinoa & black beans?

How much imagination is there in building a Cobra replica? About the same. None.

He's an "originalist." That's all. And so am I, but to a slightly lesser extent, since my Kirkham is polished aluminum and has a billet aluminum suspension.