Engine Option (Just For Discussion)

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by patrickt

It doesn't even have a coil.

That's a WIP (work in progress) pic. It's been through a few coils since then!

I seems to me that there will always be the segment that simply must have an FE, but it sure sounds like things are trending to the SBF strokers as Brent and Lance have mentioned. Easier on the wallet for sure and now days putting up some good numbers.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by blykins

Factory Five will tell you they're a kit car manufacturer.

As for ERA.....I was unaware that they sold cars in pieces.

Honestly, right now, I don't care who gets my point or who doesn't. I'm not like Patrick and don't intend to go 20+ pages arguing about a single letter of a word. I know you enjoy that sort of thing. I've got more important things to do.

I explained my thoughts on the matter. I'm done.

If you're going to post an opinion, in this case attempting to define what is or isn't a replica versus a kit car, then you've got to expect people to disagree with it. That's the Internet.

FFR is a kit and, magically, when they're finished, they're a Cobra replica. Holy cow! That's amazing! By SAAC's definition of a replica/kit car and by the State of California, as with many other states.

ERA's can be purchased as a kit too, any many customers build their own ERA's. There are some actual build threads in the ERA Forum. Holy cow! Amazing! In fact, in the early days of Shelby and Kirkham producing replicas, they also sold their cars as kits. "It's all in the Registry."

But hey, you've got an opinion, which you're entitled to have. In my view, whether you own a Cobra that came in pieces and/or dropped a dune buggy engine in it, it's still a Cobra replica and started as a kit car.

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by blykins

Factory Five will tell you they're a kit car manufacturer.

As for ERA.....I was unaware that they sold cars in pieces ...

ERA refers to their cars as kits, buyers decide how many pieces they want to assemble versus how much ERA will do.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Back on topic. For me this is the only choice for a 427 S/C!

Snob!

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Dang, I was just minding my own business waiting to see if RodKnock knew what PASTICHE meant or not.

I have a bag of mixed nuts with me right now. It has almonds, walnuts, cashews, macadamias and some PASTICHE's.

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Back on topic. For me this is the only choice for a 427 S/C!

Nice motor but you should state the CID if making your engine recommendation. I trust you got the memo that explains the name of the car plus the 427 fender emblem states what's under the hood

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

ERA refers to their cars as kits, buyers decide how many pieces they want to assemble versus how much ERA will do.

And of course, there's Levy Racing who builds turn-key FFR's for their customers.

MK3 & MK4 Roadster

It's magical how a kit is transformed into a replica, like a caterpillar into a butterfly.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

Nice motor but you should state the CID if making your engine recommendation. I trust you got the memo that explains the 427 fender emblem states what's under the hood

My engine CID is stated right up there on top of this message with my profile description. A 427 FE stroked to 482 CID.

[RodKnock]

I hate to be a bit cynical, but the OP seemed to me to be a "sponsored ad."

What's the best engine for a Cobra?

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

Nice motor but you should state the CID if making your engine recommendation. I trust you got the memo that explains the name of the car plus the 427 fender emblem states what's under the hood

Sorry. I guess I just assumed that anyone on this site would know that it is an FE just by seeing the pics.

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by Bernica

My engine CID is stated right up there on top of this message with my profile description. A 427 FE stroked to 482 CID.

Well that was a colossal brain fart.
... you should have seen that one coming

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Snob!

Just tryin' to keep it "Real"!
What the hell, this thread has gone to s$$t anyways...

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Just tryin' to keep it "Real"!
What the hell, this thread has gone to s$$t anyways...

Well, maybe we can steer the conversation to "What's your favorite Cobra color?" And I'm sure there will be ONLY ONE (1) VOTE for Desert Storm Camo Hummer Beige.

[rodneym]

Didn't 'ol Carroll himself say that "427" was the model name, not the engine type or displacement?
Or are we gonna argue over what he meant?

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Didn't 'ol Carroll himself say that "427" was the model name, not the engine type or displacement?
Or are we gonna argue over what he meant?

That's the way I see it too. He put a "benchmark" name on the car, but did lots of other things depending on circumstances at the time.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by rodneym

Didn't 'ol Carroll himself say that "427" was the model name, not the engine type or displacement?
Or are we gonna argue over what he meant?

"It's all in the Registry."

Well, thank goodness he chose 427 Cobra and not 428 Cobra.

[blykins]

Hey look, it's a Cobra REPLICA!

Viewing Auction #121062129625 - SHELBY COBRA VW KIT CAR BAJA DUNE BUGGY MANX HOT ROD REPLICA STREET | Keith Martin's Collector Car Price Tracker

Game, set, match. (And now I'm done. )

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by blykins

Hey look, it's a Cobra REPLICA!

Viewing Auction #121062129625 - SHELBY COBRA VW KIT CAR BAJA DUNE BUGGY MANX HOT ROD REPLICA STREET | Keith Martin's Collector Car Price Tracker

Game, set, match. (And now I'm done. )

He's back. Now there's a man of his word.

I certainly hope you didn't waste a lot of time on finding that listing.

Actually, you're so confused now that you've lost your original point, which was what defines a kit car versus a replica:

A. "state of assembly" (i.e., "If it's in boxes....."), or
B. engine manufacturer (only Ford engines) need apply (e.g., no Viper V10's).

My answer, "It's all in the Registry."

Originally Posted by RodKnock

"Kit Car OR Replica. Any car with a body which approximates the original Cobra shape, using ANY kind of frame, suspension, brakes and drivetrain."

If you believe that listing you posted approximates the shape of an original Cobra, then I feel sorry for you.

[blykins]

Ehh, changed my mind and came back. I can think for myself and change my mind. I'm not ruled by a registry.

No sir, not confused at all. You can clearly see, by your beloved registry standards, what constitutes as a replica. Which CSX number is that one? 666?

Your stance is that a kit car and a replica are the same.

My stance is that you should pick up a dictionary.

[blykins]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

If you believe that listing you posted approximates the shape of an original Cobra, then I feel sorry for you.

Ok, I'll give you that one.

How about this?

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/atta...d-vw_cobra.jpg

That replica would look right nice sitting beside your Kirkham replica, wouldn't it?