1965 427 s/c Factory Five on eBay

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

Owner is not an expert on cobra replicas (he never claimed to be) - he bought the car and he enjoyed it and he is now having my company sell it for him - it s a nice car and the money is right on it for having a real BB 427 ford side-oiler

SGB

Car is over priced, seller/broker should do his homework on the replica market before putting his foot in his mouth and his business reputation on the line. Hiding behind "the owner told me so" does not make it better, nor does the truth hold out as to the value of the car vs say an ERA, with a sideoiler in it.

Then again, what would I know about the replica market, something the current seller/broker has always put down whenever marketing his "superior product"

[stephen_becker]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Car is over priced, seller/broker should do his homework on the replica market before putting his foot in his mouth and his business reputation on the line. Hiding behind "the owner told me so" does not make it better, nor does the truth hold out as to the value of the car vs say an ERA, with a sideoiler in it.

Then again, what would I know about the replica market, something the current seller/broker has always put down whenever marketing his "superior product"

Gotta love when your "hidden competition" decides to start talking trash about you...............

William "Bill" Silvershien

Owner
Neverdone Enterprises
May 1998 – Present (18 years 2 months)
Market classic and collectable automobiles; automotive asset management; market appraisal services; pre-purchase inspections; contract negotiations; sales (wholesale and retail); driver education (track guidance services); assist buyers and sellers; production planning; inventory control.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

Gotta love when your "hidden competition" decides to start talking trash about you...............

Bill has never hidden the fact that he buys and sells all sorts of cars, including Cobras. He actually buys and sells in another marque's forum, in which I'm a member.

His view that this FFR is overpriced is clearly supported by other opinions, including mine. And the recent price reduction from $55K to $50K is evidence of that, no?

[Bernica]

I'm thinking $38-40k when all is done. Then someone will pull the S/O and put something more FFR friendly in it and flip it. Then keep the S/O for something else...
My 2 c

[stephen_becker]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Bill has never hidden the fact that he buys and sells all sorts of cars, including Cobras. He actually buys and sells in another marque's forum, in which I'm a member.

His view that this FFR is overpriced is clearly supported by other opinions, including mine. And the recent price reduction from $55K to $50K is evidence of that, no?

Interesting as I cannot find anywhere on this forum or on the SAAC Forum or on the shelby.com forum that has Bill advertising his services?

Furthermore the State of South Carolina department of automobile dealer licensing does not have him nor his company listed as a dealer/broker/wholesaler/etc.

SGB

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

Interesting as I cannot find anywhere on this forum or on the SAAC Forum or on the shelby.com forum that has Bill advertising his services?

Furthermore the State of South Carolina department of automobile dealer licensing does not have him nor his company listed as a dealer/broker/wholesaler/etc.

SGB

I don't know the laws of South Carolina, but as hobbyists, aren't we allowed to buy, fix and sell a certain # of cars each year without needing a license, company or whatever?

[mrmustang]

Stephen,

You could not sit back and openly discuss the car in question, instead you have to cut and paste parts of my LinkedIn profile.

Was this an attempt to either intimidate, or goad me some how?

Trashing you, how, show me where I made one incorrect statement in this discussion thread (you do remember you posted this in ALL TALK COBRA and not in the forum classifieds under "dealer for sale items", right)

I don't hide anything, never have, never will.

I am, and have always been a buyer and seller assistant.

No surprise in my line of past businesses, I have been (and may still be ) a licensed appraiser.

Plus, I do my homework on each and every car that I take on, I am extremely finicky about what I take on, and as such, work strictly by word of mouth, as it is my personal reputation on the line. I can proudly stand behind mine, and generally do whenever someone like you thinks they are exposing the "man behind the curtain".

Any other public information you want to lay out there, after all, I've got nothing to hide, never have, never will.

Bill S.

PS: CSL never sent me a letter, in fact, I did some really nice embroidery work for several in management when I owned the business. However, they did request a name change in 2010 by the new owner of the business. It's now called (I believe) replicamotions, and Ted does a really nice job of creating some wicked, custom embroidery of his customers cars.

Edit:: Remove PSS, Add red highlight to ALL TALK COBRA above, and correct spelling errors

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

Gotta love when your "hidden competition" decides to start talking trash about you...............

William "Bill" Silvershien

Owner
Neverdone Enterprises
May 1998 – Present (18 years 2 months)
Market classic and collectable automobiles; automotive asset management; market appraisal services; pre-purchase inspections; contract negotiations; sales (wholesale and retail); driver education (track guidance services); assist buyers and sellers; production planning; inventory control.

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

President
Cobrapromotions
February 2000 – June 2007 (7 years 5 months)
Sales and marketing of specialty automobiles and apparel; appraisals; sales; specialized marketing; inventory control; supply negotiations.

Hey Bill - Nice use of a trademarked name - CSL will want to know about that

Originally Posted by stephen_becker

Interesting as I cannot find anywhere on this forum or on the SAAC Forum or on the shelby.com forum that has Bill advertising his services?

Furthermore the State of South Carolina department of automobile dealer licensing does not have him nor his company listed as a dealer/broker/wholesaler/etc.

SGB

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Was this an attempt to either intimidate, or goad me some how?

Trashing you, how, show me where I made one incorrect statement in this discussion thread ...

I wouldn't say you are blameless for this little tiff ...

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Car is over priced, seller/broker should do his homework on the replica market before putting his foot in his mouth and his business reputation on the line. Hiding behind "the owner told me so" does not make it better, nor does the truth hold out as to the value of the car vs say an ERA, with a sideoiler in it.

Then again, what would I know about the replica market, something the current seller/broker has always put down whenever marketing his "superior product"

Seems like you two guys have had an ax to grind for awhile, also looks like you threw the first jab, just sayin'.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

I wouldn't say you are blameless for this little tiff ...



Seems like you two guys have had an ax to grind for awhile, also looks like you threw the first jab, just sayin'.

Joe,

Long ago, yes, Stephen and I butted heads, some of what he posted in the past needed to have a rebuttal, and I jumped in with glee, there is no hiding it, it happened, and is here for all to review for themselves all by doing a search of the forum. The difference for me at least, is this is water long under the bridge, and it's been years. He might still hold that grudge, not liking when fact overrides fiction, but as he already knows, I do not.

As for this thread, instead of discussing the car in question, or responding to anything about the car, he is attempting to turn in into something personal. Grasping at straws and posting bits and pieces of my LinkedIn profile in hopes of doing just that.

But it's not about me, nor him, it's about the FFR he posted in ALL TALK COBRA, (a discussion sub forum which allows such open and honest discussion and opinions). You'll notice since this is a discussion forum, there are plenty of other Cobra replicas in which I and others have discussed values, conditions, quality of the build, rarely do any of us get called out in such a personal nature by doing so, after all, that is what this sub forum is all about, isn't it?

I guess I can leave it at that, while we await Mr Becker's next attempt at derailing this thread.


For now, until you do your own searches of the forum, we can agree to disagree. Notice that we both did so in a calm, cool, concise and respectful way. This is how the forum should generally be.

Enjoy the day

Bill S.

[jacobsed]

I saw that FFR at Vanguard in person. They were asking in the 40's. The Bondurant SPF they had at the same time was a lot more impressive but they were asking too much for it. I offered on it but they only came off a couple G's and let me walk.