| FUNFER2 |
06-25-2016 11:50 AM |
The only thing I'm worried about is not enough power. ;)
I will only be racing here and there for fun, so being used mainly on the street, I always like a torque motor over a high HP one. Torques gets you there, HP stays you there.
You and I have the same "IDEA". :cool:
I like driving downtown at night around the bars, as I get on the loud pipes and scare the CRAP out of people ! :D
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| RodKnock |
06-25-2016 11:56 AM |
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Originally Posted by Ace23
(Post 1396223)
We are all driving fake Cobras so who cares about resale value. If I was starting from scratch I would go with a 385 series and I would save my money until I could afford to do it right.
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Who cares about resale? I do.
For not much more money, and you'll need different parts for the 385 too, which adds to the final price, you could get a budget 390/428 build. That's the way I'd go. I'd argue, resale over HP. If I'm on a budget, I'd opt for the FE with less HP than the 385 with more HP. |
| FUNFER2 |
06-25-2016 11:58 AM |
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| xlr8tr |
06-25-2016 12:43 PM |
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Originally Posted by FUNFER2
(Post 1396228)
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LOL- same pipes on mine, love setting of the car alarms as I rumble by. And I'd always take horsepower today (and for many years) vs. a few extra bucks at some unforeseen point in time way in the future if/when I sell.... its all about the smiles per mile! |
| FUNFER2 |
06-25-2016 02:07 PM |
The only time I cringed at setting off my neighbors alarms, was leaving at 4:00 in the morning to Kansas to the Good Guys Meet.
I could hear them now,..."GILMORE" !!! :mad::mad::mad:
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| FUNFER2 |
06-25-2016 02:12 PM |
Hey Brent, what do you suppose is this engine.
Small block what ?
Sounds incredible ! :D
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJN2diQPpMU[/ame]
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| Ace23 |
06-25-2016 02:56 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
(Post 1396225)
The only thing I'm worried about is not enough power. ;)
I will only be racing here and there for fun, so being used mainly on the street, I always like a torque motor over a high HP one. Torques gets you there, HP stays you there.
You and I have the same "IDEA". :cool:
I like driving downtown at night around the bars, as I get on the loud pipes and scare the CRAP out of people ! :D
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Sounds like we have similar uses for our cars. If you have any doubt on not having enough power the 385 would be my choice...especially if you are a TQ guy. Small blocks can make pretty insane TQ as well but most of them aren't going to be capable of making the higher end power if they are setup for the lower TQ....and if they do they will be more high strung. In all honesty the 427 I have now is plenty but I want more....I want to get to a point where I don't want more. I think 700-750hp and 600-650tq would be enough for me. |
| Ace23 |
06-25-2016 03:01 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
(Post 1396227)
Who cares about resale? I do.
For not much more money, and you'll need different parts for the 385 too, which adds to the final price, you could get a budget 390/428 build. That's the way I'd go. I'd argue, resale over HP. If I'm on a budget, I'd opt for the FE with less HP than the 385 with more HP.
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I don't take issue with anythjng your saying. Personally I have yet to have the thought of resale ever enter my mind when driving my car.....the only thing I think about is wow this is a blast and man I sure would like some more power. If you have a nice well taken care of car what's the worse you could hit on resale...10-15k. There is always someone wanting a high hp car and as time goes on the people who grew up when the FE meant something are going to be gone. Hell by that time comes around we may all have worthless undesirable kit cars worth nothing! Put the power in it you want and let it rip . |
| Dimis |
06-25-2016 03:16 PM |
If I had a pretend cobra, with parts already set up for an FE, and could get 350-400 within budget, I'd put a pretend sideoiler in it. Like a stroked 390(445) or 428 etc.
But that's just me.
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| blykins |
06-25-2016 03:41 PM |
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Originally Posted by FUNFER2
(Post 1396250)
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Little high compression small block of some sort. Doesn't take that much power to smoke the tires like that though.
I could build a 390 (not stroked) with some compression and a healthy solid flat tappet and do much more than that..... |
| RodKnock |
06-25-2016 03:44 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace23
(Post 1396256)
I don't take issue with anythjng your saying. Personally I have yet to have the thought of resale ever enter my mind when driving my car.....the only thing I think about is wow this is a blast and man I sure would like some more power. If you have a nice well taken care of car what's the worse you could hit on resale...10-15k. There is always someone wanting a high hp car and as time goes on the people who grew up when the FE meant something are going to be gone. Hell by that time comes around we may all have worthless undesirable kit cars worth nothing! Put the power in it you want and let it rip .
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You also have to consider how quickly you could sell your Cobra. As an example, I looked at Cobra with a 460 and decided to walk away. I knew I was going to have to invest $10,000-$20,000 in the future just to get it to where I liked it. And I'd be stuck storing and selling the 460. It's just easier to sell a 427 Cobra with an FE.
A 289 Slabside would be a blast to drive too. I'd like more power too, but the cost/benefit ratio of a Cammer makes no sense to me. |
| jacobsed |
06-26-2016 06:02 AM |
Mine is SPF #705. I don't know how it compares to an FE. It looks bigger to me. Has most all the Cobra Valley upgrades. If you want those valve covers then get them quickly because once the inventory is gone that's it. If you really want a vid of it running them PM me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
(Post 1396177)
Cool. Any video of the engine running ?
Is it wider, taller and or longer than an FE ?
What make is your Cobra ?
I know that with the Lone Star, a turkey pan will hit the hood, so I don't know if the 460 would be too tall or not ? (always thought that was a stupid design) !
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| jacobsed |
06-26-2016 06:04 AM |
I have a Torker II on mine. Holley double pumper, Ford Oval air cleaner, spacer to clear the MSD distributor in between. Clears fine.
Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
(Post 1396179)
In a Superformance, you need a Torker intake (very short) to fit it under the hood scoop.
The deck height on an FE is 10.170. A 385 series engine is 10.320-10.360 depending on the year. Heads are much taller as well. Physically, it's a much bigger engine.
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| Grubby |
06-26-2016 06:47 AM |
My first ERA (178) was 351w powered. It was strong and sounded mean, but was very hard to sell. Everyone wanted an FE and it took a special buyer to pull the trigger.
My second ERA (755) Cobra was powered by a 428 stroker and I was thinking about selling and it sold in a day. 755 felt no faster than 178.
For me, nothing but an FE goes in my next ERA. A 500hp FE is enough to scare anyone.
We all think we won't sell them, but I can tell you I have made a nice profit on two cars and will be starting number 3 in the near future.
John
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| Gary(SF) |
06-26-2016 07:30 AM |
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Originally Posted by FUNFER2
(Post 1396199)
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Crate motor with mechanical roller cam, the only real departure from the normal solutions is the decision to go with Webers. Originally had a single Holley 4-bbl. The Webers are smoother, start easier, shut down without run-on (unlike the Holley, which dieseled like crazy), have quicker throttle response, and my butt dyno says they make more power. Oh, and the look isn't bad either...
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| FUNFER2 |
06-26-2016 07:48 AM |
Beautiful motor and color !
Do you have a link to the crate engine, or what's the specs ?
I've always wanted webber type injection and convert it to electronic, but the price is too much for me.
Do you have any video's ?
"my butt dyno says they make more power" :LOL::LOL::LOL:
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| Gary(SF) |
06-26-2016 11:54 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
(Post 1396324)
Beautiful motor and color !
Do you have a link to the crate engine, or what's the specs ?
I've always wanted webber type injection and convert it to electronic, but the price is too much for me.
Do you have any video's ?
"my butt dyno says they make more power" :LOL::LOL::LOL:
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https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-521FT
These are actual Weber 48IDA's, not injection.
Sorry, no videos |
| Jack Zupan |
06-26-2016 12:16 PM |
The only engine that should go in a 427 Cobra is an FE in my opinion.
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| blykins |
06-26-2016 12:44 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacobsed
(Post 1396312)
I have a Torker II on mine. Holley double pumper, Ford Oval air cleaner, spacer to clear the MSD distributor in between. Clears fine.
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Yes, a Torker/Torker II is actually one of the shortest intake manifolds for a BBF. Carb pad average height is 3-7/8". Pretty short. Next up is a Performer RPM, average height is ~5-1/2". Victor is 6-1/2". I'm using "average" height because the intakes are actually angled (except for the Victor) and the front of the carb pad is much lower than the front. |
Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
(Post 1396266)
You also have to consider how quickly you could sell your Cobra. As an example, I looked at Cobra with a 460 and decided to walk away. I knew I was going to have to invest $10,000-$20,000 in the future just to get it to where I liked it. And I'd be stuck storing and selling the 460. It's just easier to sell a 427 Cobra with an FE.
A 289 Slabside would be a blast to drive too. I'd like more power too, but the cost/benefit ratio of a Cammer makes no sense to me.
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Having a FE in a Kirkham will make a big difference on resale, but for us guys with the quieter and more solid sounding interior and 3.5 extra inches of legroom, it doesn't make that big of a difference.
You can't get 500 Cu In plus out of a windsor, but you can get a large looking 427-460 out of a 351 block putting out an easy 550 HP plus and save a few thousand dollars. |
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