FE ONLY OR 514ci. CRATE IN YOUR,....COBRA ?

[blykins]

Originally Posted by jacobsed

I have a Torker II on mine. Holley double pumper, Ford Oval air cleaner, spacer to clear the MSD distributor in between. Clears fine.

Yes, a Torker/Torker II is actually one of the shortest intake manifolds for a BBF. Carb pad average height is 3-7/8". Pretty short. Next up is a Performer RPM, average height is ~5-1/2". Victor is 6-1/2". I'm using "average" height because the intakes are actually angled (except for the Victor) and the front of the carb pad is much lower than the front.

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by blykins

Yes, a Torker/Torker II is actually one of the shortest intake manifolds for a BBF. Carb pad average height is 3-7/8". Pretty short. Next up is a Performer RPM, average height is ~5-1/2". Victor is 6-1/2". I'm using "average" height because the intakes are actually angled (except for the Victor) and the front of the carb pad is much lower than the front.

Hey Brent, originally, we used a the Edelbrock RPM manifold, then after the rebuild we got the Air Gap and it hit my hood.
So, I had to plane down the carb surface about 3/8". The Lone Star is a great car, but that and we can utilize a turkey pan pissed me off.

Anyway, even the air gap barley,...hit's the hood, just a small rub. Do you think we should stay with it or a different manifold if I build a 427 or 428 ?

[FUNFER2]

Great news. I sold the 1/4 scale RC Sprint Car ! Woo-Woo !

Now I can put that find towards the foundation,.... of my engine, the block !

[Buzz]

On paper the size difference doesn't look that significant, but clearly that doesn't translate into physical reality. The 385 certainly looks a lot bigger.

There's a plethora* of replicas running around with Windsors and they seem to do a brisk trade, so outside of a premium brand replica known for accuracy and correctness, I wouldn't worry about resale. I want the performance so in the circumstances that you describe, I'd take the 514 any day of the week.


* [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyBUMntP6DI[/ame]

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by Buzz

On paper the size difference doesn't look that significant, but clearly that doesn't translate into physical reality. The 385 certainly looks a lot bigger.

There's a plethora* of replicas running around with Windsors and they seem to do a brisk trade, so outside of a premium brand replica known for accuracy and correctness, I wouldn't worry about resale. I want the performance so in the circumstances that you describe, I'd take the 514 any day of the week.


* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyBUMntP6DI

Right - we went through all of this last year. I thought a 460 was a lot wider but it isn't. And this chart compares it to a 390 FE so compared to a 427 MR their may not be much difference in height - but the 429/460 height is probably based on a stock Ford intake. And there is a weight penalty however.

Sounds like their would be considerable cost in switching your car over to a 385 series motor.

[Gary(SF)]

I've got a 521 c.i. under the hood of my Superformance, and I love the power and torque, as well as the brawny appearance. Once you experience the 385's seemingly limitless torque it's hard to be satisfied with anything else.

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[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by Gary(SF)

I've got a 521 c.i. under the hood of my Superformance, and I love the power and torque, as well as the brawny appearance. Once you experience the 385's seemingly limitless torque it's hard to be satisfied with anything else.

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Man, what a motor.

What are the specs ?

http://www.picpaste.com/thumbs/Cobra...1466869931.jpg

[Ace23]

We are all driving fake Cobras so who cares about resale value. If I was starting from scratch I would go with a 385 series and I would save my money until I could afford to do it right. If you are worried about too much torque or low end grunt then maybe look at smaller CI 385 stroker setup that you can pull to higher Rpms and shift the torque curve. I see where Brent mentioned being limited to a torquer intake in a SPF.....that's usually what you see but I think Craig from Craig's cobra is running a victor intake in his SPF. If your using it as a street car and you like sheer grunt I don't see how you could go wrong with the big block.

My idea of the perfect cobra is something that is so loud and nasty people think your coming down the road in a Winston cup car. I want babies to cry when I pass by and I want it to make me scream profanity everytime I step into the loud pedal. Oh and also add getting 20mpg and being able to cruse at 2000rpm....sounds pretty fun!!!!

[FUNFER2]

The only thing I'm worried about is not enough power.

I will only be racing here and there for fun, so being used mainly on the street, I always like a torque motor over a high HP one. Torques gets you there, HP stays you there.

You and I have the same "IDEA".

I like driving downtown at night around the bars, as I get on the loud pipes and scare the CRAP out of people !

[FUNFER2]

This is partly how I do it, my mufflers.

[Ace23]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

The only thing I'm worried about is not enough power.

I will only be racing here and there for fun, so being used mainly on the street, I always like a torque motor over a high HP one. Torques gets you there, HP stays you there.

You and I have the same "IDEA".

I like driving downtown at night around the bars, as I get on the loud pipes and scare the CRAP out of people !

Sounds like we have similar uses for our cars. If you have any doubt on not having enough power the 385 would be my choice...especially if you are a TQ guy. Small blocks can make pretty insane TQ as well but most of them aren't going to be capable of making the higher end power if they are setup for the lower TQ....and if they do they will be more high strung. In all honesty the 427 I have now is plenty but I want more....I want to get to a point where I don't want more. I think 700-750hp and 600-650tq would be enough for me.

[Rich A]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

The only thing I'm worried about is not enough power.

Most Cobra owner boast about how much HP they have under the hood, but
NEVER use, know how to use or want to take it to the track (any track) to use.
So lounge chair racers are a dime a dozen like the Cobra roadster.

That's my two cents.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by Ace23

We are all driving fake Cobras so who cares about resale value. If I was starting from scratch I would go with a 385 series and I would save my money until I could afford to do it right.

Who cares about resale? I do.

For not much more money, and you'll need different parts for the 385 too, which adds to the final price, you could get a budget 390/428 build. That's the way I'd go. I'd argue, resale over HP. If I'm on a budget, I'd opt for the FE with less HP than the 385 with more HP.

[Ace23]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Who cares about resale? I do.

For not much more money, and you'll need different parts for the 385 too, which adds to the final price, you could get a budget 390/428 build. That's the way I'd go. I'd argue, resale over HP. If I'm on a budget, I'd opt for the FE with less HP than the 385 with more HP.

I don't take issue with anythjng your saying. Personally I have yet to have the thought of resale ever enter my mind when driving my car.....the only thing I think about is wow this is a blast and man I sure would like some more power. If you have a nice well taken care of car what's the worse you could hit on resale...10-15k. There is always someone wanting a high hp car and as time goes on the people who grew up when the FE meant something are going to be gone. Hell by that time comes around we may all have worthless undesirable kit cars worth nothing! Put the power in it you want and let it rip .

[G-Pete]

Originally Posted by Ace23

We are all driving fake Cobras so who cares about resale value.

We ALL do, unless you spent somebody else's dough.

[G-Pete]

I just got this a couple weeks ago (501). Planning to build "Ollie the Dragon" - sure the intake goes and will be replaced with Weber's 48IDA.

That will be fun!!

[Gary(SF)]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

Man, what a motor.

What are the specs ?

http://www.picpaste.com/thumbs/Cobra...1466869931.jpg

Crate motor with mechanical roller cam, the only real departure from the normal solutions is the decision to go with Webers. Originally had a single Holley 4-bbl. The Webers are smoother, start easier, shut down without run-on (unlike the Holley, which dieseled like crazy), have quicker throttle response, and my butt dyno says they make more power. Oh, and the look isn't bad either...

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[FUNFER2]

Beautiful motor and color !

Do you have a link to the crate engine, or what's the specs ?

I've always wanted webber type injection and convert it to electronic, but the price is too much for me.

Do you have any video's ?

"my butt dyno says they make more power"

[Gary(SF)]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

Beautiful motor and color !

Do you have a link to the crate engine, or what's the specs ?

I've always wanted webber type injection and convert it to electronic, but the price is too much for me.

Do you have any video's ?

"my butt dyno says they make more power"

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/M-6007-521FT

These are actual Weber 48IDA's, not injection.

Sorry, no videos

[Pman1961]

A thread about big blocks that ACE23 didn't create! Chime in my friend...lol!!