A.C. Cars Ltd. looking for info

[cobrakiwi]

Just as with original Cobra's, Shelby's, Ferrari's, Porsche's and several others that get copied due to the value of the originals, it is likely that others coming in here after a Google search could garner important information that they would then use to alter a chassis to make it "appear more original" to one manufacturer or another. We have seen it attempted with Kirkham and McClusky built chassis/body combinations in the past (called "AIR CARS"), it is"details", not shared with the general public, were the give-a-way and caused the copies to be shown as frauds when confronted with an original "owner unknown" car showing up, when in fact the original car was not really "unknown", and in at least one case, was still with the original owner/family with an unbroken chain of custody from new.

What a load of rubbish, no one here is trying to pass this car off as anything.


Without being a licensed manufacturer, you cannot arbitrary stamp a VIN number into a chassis and make it your own. As a licensed manufacturer, you are required to file paperwork with your governing body and issue a MSO/MCO for the chassis.

Where does it say this is the vin number?
There are plenty of cars out there that where scratch built with the letters c s x o b r etc and any given numbers and have been successfully titled, received a vin number and driving the roads.



Just because I do not currently own an original CSX2000/3000 series, a Kirkham, Kimmins, AC MK, or McClusky (among others), does not mean I have not worked on, driven, help restore/rebuild/build/studied up close and in person any or all of the above 1-14 times over. Keep in mind, I've been around these cars since the late 70's and have seen more than most.

Really? Care to share how many Kirkhams and Kimmins you have owned?

Bill S[/quote]

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by cobrakiwi

What a load of rubbish, no one here is trying to pass this car off as anything.

Perhaps you missed my disclaimer at the top of my original post

Originally Posted by cobrakiwi

Where does it say this is the vin number?
There are plenty of cars out there that where scratch built with the letters c s x o b r etc and any given numbers and have been successfully titled, received a vin number and driving the roads.

Notice where it was stamped, and specifically how it was stamped, and why it was stamped in such a manner in attempts to replicate what is publicly known

Originally Posted by cobrakiwi

Really? Care to share how many Kirkhams and Kimmins you have owned?

I did not say I owned any of them, but I have personally worked on, and/or inspected/judged/crawled in/over/under/through/had the pleasure of driving over two dozen Kirkhams (289FIA, 289FIA Hybrid, 427SC) over the years, and at least two Kimmins produced cars, also two other McClusky cars, and at least one Aluminum bodied/chassis produced in the northeast Not to mention dozens of CSX2000/CSX3000/CSX4000/CSX7000's . Collecting memorabilia, paperwork, photographs, details, notes, autographs, etc of these cars fills 20 (21 actually) Zerox boxes in two different states here in the US

Some of those owners/cars mentioned above are actually members (past and present) of clubcobra.com

How about you?


Bill S.

[cobrakiwi]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Perhaps you missed my disclaimer at the top of my original post




Notice where it was stamped, and specifically how it was stamped, and why it was stamped in such a manner in attempts to replicate what is publicly known




I did not say I owned any of them, but I have personally worked on, and/or inspected/judged/crawled in/over/under/through/had the pleasure of driving over two dozen Kirkhams (289FIA, 289FIA Hybrid, 427SC) over the years, and at least two Kimmins produced cars, also two other McClusky cars, and at least one Aluminum bodied/chassis produced in the northeast Not to mention dozens of CSX2000/CSX3000/CSX4000/CSX7000's . Collecting memorabilia, paperwork, photographs, details, notes, autographs, etc of these cars fills 20 (21 actually) Zerox boxes in two different states here in the US

Some of those owners/cars mentioned above are actually members (past and present) of clubcobra.com

How about you?


Bill S.

Disclaimer, not missed I saw it there, so what?

Stamp placement, yes saw that, once again so what?

I will be the first to admit, I have not owned that many,
4 Kirkhams, 3 CSX continuation cars, 3 Hi-tech, and worked on many from the same manufacturers.

I still stand by my statement, I think this one is out of your league!

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by cobrakiwi

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Where does it say this is the vin number?
There are plenty of cars out there that where scratch built with the letters c s x o b r etc and any given numbers and have been successfully titled, received a vin number and driving the roads.

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And I seem to recall Shelby and Brian Angliss overlapping a bit on serial numbers for their continuation cars.