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10-13-2016, 08:08 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,334
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Originally Posted by mrmustang
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So you bought it new from a US manufacturer, then you would have a MSO/MCO, shipping records, your "local Cobra manufacture" who cleared it (cleared it how, through TransCanada, if that is the case, they hold their records for 25 years, a simple call to them could garner the information you seek, or open Pandora's Box which you should be worried about) or some record of payment to them, why not just say that, and post that in the first place. Your lack of transparency, your withholding of vital information, when you are asking for our assistance, seems a bit questionable at best. Further, no conspiracy on my part, I think I spent quite a bit of time going over your photographs, digging through my 20+ file boxes, comparing countless other photographs, of other aluminum body/chassis manufacturers (both commercial and private in nature), along with going over all of your previous posts on the subject and spelled it out, as I now see it, quite clearly. Sorry if that stings a little, but I am blunt when it comes to such things, preferring the facts, as laid out, by you, to speak for themselves.
Or, I guess our time, energy, and efforts are not as important as the time it took for you to ask for our free assistance.
Bill S.
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Bill,
I thought he said he bought it from a previous owner, not a manufacturer, which would explain why he does not know who the manufacturer is.
And that further he said he had it brought into Canada as parts, so presumably he does not need an MCO. I imagine that he needed some sort of receipt for the parts and still has that. He mentions a local builder or manufacturer who helped clear the parts into Canada. I suppose it might be interesting to know how the local builder helped, but maybe that is irrelevant other than it got the frame and body into Canada as parts with some sort of paperwork to prove his ownership of the parts.
It seems that he is just interested in knowing who made frame and body for his own interest and not as some requirement for registering the car.
Ken
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10-14-2016, 05:57 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
Bill,
I thought he said he bought it from a previous owner, not a manufacturer, which would explain why he does not know who the manufacturer is.
And that further he said he had it brought into Canada as parts, so presumably he does not need an MCO. I imagine that he needed some sort of receipt for the parts and still has that. He mentions a local builder or manufacturer who helped clear the parts into Canada. I suppose it might be interesting to know how the local builder helped, but maybe that is irrelevant other than it got the frame and body into Canada as parts with some sort of paperwork to prove his ownership of the parts.
It seems that he is just interested in knowing who made frame and body for his own interest and not as some requirement for registering the car.
Ken
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Hey Ken,
Since I can't see the original post, and nobody quoted it before it disappeared, I can't confirm that. I can only go with what I can see (Larry's pictures appear to have been taken down from his hosting source, that or we exceeded their bandwidth with the host) and read. OP came in, asked for assistance, you and I gave it, along with our opinions, and he came back and felt they were a personal attack on him, which of course, you and I know, was incorrect. Just look at his response to what you wrote in post #54, and again after I posted (#72) calling the car a Kimmons and adding my concerns for the seller, but not calling him out on anything, but he will continue to take everything personally, when he should take a step back and reread everything with a clearer head. Having hands on experience with working on the body/chassis/repair and such you notice certain aspects, things I saw point to Kimmins, I'll stand by that unless proven beyond a shadow of a doubt differently. I'm just here to assist where I can, while others want to fall back to the old, worn out adage of "you don't own XXX, so you don't know anything about them", you and I know that ownership is not required, but the enthusiasm is. I've got no dog in this hunt, and apologize to the others who believe that I do/did.
I'm off to get coffee (you can never have too much coffee).
Bill S.
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10-14-2016, 06:30 AM
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Abnormal CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,334
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
Hey Ken,
Since I can't see the original post, and nobody quoted it before it disappeared, I can't confirm that. I can only go with what I can see (Larry's pictures appear to have been taken down from his hosting source, that or we exceeded their bandwidth with the host) and read. OP came in, asked for assistance, you and I gave it, along with our opinions, and he came back and felt they were a personal attack on him, which of course, you and I know, was incorrect. Just look at his response to what you wrote in post #54, and again after I posted (#72) calling the car a Kimmons and adding my concerns for the seller, but not calling him out on anything, but he will continue to take everything personally, when he should take a step back and reread everything with a clearer head. Having hands on experience with working on the body/chassis/repair and such you notice certain aspects, things I saw point to Kimmins, I'll stand by that unless proven beyond a shadow of a doubt differently. I'm just here to assist where I can, while others want to fall back to the old, worn out adage of "you don't own XXX, so you don't know anything about them", you and I know that ownership is not required, but the enthusiasm is. I've got no dog in this hunt, and apologize to the others who believe that I do/did.
I'm off to get coffee (you can never have too much coffee).
Bill S.
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Be sure to get some toast to go with your coffee. 
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10-14-2016, 10:20 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
Posts: 9,592
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Originally Posted by mrmustang
I'm off to get coffee (you can never have too much coffee).
Bill S.
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
Be sure to get some toast to go with your coffee. 
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One person advocating drinking too much coffee and the other advocating eating toast. Hmmm.
Nothing like an overly acidic and unproductive diet. 
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10-14-2016, 01:50 PM
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: Big Apple,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Nissan
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MrMustang
Just curious- did you call out "fraud" on Shelby and whoever he worked with in the 1980s when he sold new chassis as "original rusty chassis" with CSX vin numbers?
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10-14-2016, 02:11 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
MrMustang
Just curious- did you call out "fraud" on Shelby and whoever he worked with in the 1980s when he sold new chassis as "original rusty chassis" with CSX vin numbers?
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Yes, I specifically remember him tweeting about it.
Yes, I know NYG, it's always about me. 
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10-14-2016, 05:25 PM
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Abnormal CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
One person advocating drinking too much coffee and the other advocating eating toast. Hmmm.
Nothing like an overly acidic and unproductive diet. 
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Now I hope you aren't going to try to push your Taco Bell diet on me. I have never eaten there and I was not planning on starting to. 
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10-16-2016, 04:06 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Colorado Springs,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Cobra FF5/BBM 482
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Have you called the Kirkhams to ask if they would look at pictures and tell you if it's one of there cars
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