Looking for a new TURNKEY

7173TA · #1 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 06:11 AM

New to site. I'm looking to buy a NEW TURNKEY with a 427 and IRS. Narrowed my search to BD, ERA, & SPF. Looking to spend no more that $70K. Need advice on most bang for the buck, quality, reliability, ride. Not for racing. Any suggestions appreciated. Live on Long Island.

jhv48 · #2 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 06:24 AM

I believe your price ceiling has ruled out both ERA and SPF for brand new builds. Used, will open up all three for your consideration. Both of those makes (ERA & SPF) will probably cost more than your $70k ceiling to build and license. That leaves BDR.
Check out their website and see what you can get for your $70k.
If you're willing to consider a used cobra, then for $70k you will have lots of choices.
You can't go wrong with either of the three makes.

REY 427 · #3 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 07:09 AM

There are quite a few choices on Ebay right now on brand new Backdrafts. This one would be my top choice.
1965 Shelby Backdraft RT3 completed by Vintage Motorsports | eBay

REY 427 · #4 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 07:11 AM

Now, if you're interested in buying a used one I can cut you a deal on mine

7173TA · #5 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 10:43 AM

thanks, but not in black.

REY 427 · #6 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 7173TA

thanks, but not in black.

I was only kidding about selling my car. But you should contact Jay (Cashburn) with Vintage Motorsports. You can see his post above. Sounds like the have several brand new cars in stock ready for a new home, and they're in your budget.

Cashburn · #7 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 07:32 AM

Give me a call. We have several in stock at your price point ready to deliver. Can also build what you want if I do not have it. We are just on the other side of the Long Island sound from you and can service and maintain vehicle for you with our pickup service.

Toll Free: 888.427.1965

Have the white car that was posted above and also a Guardsman Blue / W. White Stripes with same engine setup. Both cars are below your target budget.

REY 427 · #8 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Cashburn

Give me a call. We have several in stock at your price point ready to deliver. Can also build what you want if I do not have it. We are just on the other side of the Long Island sound from you and can service and maintain vehicle for you with our pickup service.

Toll Free: 888.427.1965

Have the white car that was posted above and also a Guardsman Blue / W. White Stripes with same engine setup. Both cars are below your target budget.

This is the way to go. If I were to do it all over again, I'd have Vintage build me one. I love their version of these cars.

7173TA · #9 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 10:59 AM

I saw BD dealer at B-J Mohegun Sun and spoke with Glenn Owen. Sat in one and seat could be wider...and I'm not a big guy...5'8" 180 lbs. Otherwise i liked.

Cashburn · #10 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 7173TA

I saw BD dealer at B-J Mohegun Sun and spoke with Glenn Owen. Sat in one and seat could be wider...and I'm not a big guy...5'8" 180 lbs. Otherwise i liked.

Glenn is from the Florida dealership. We split the space with them. We have a seat modification if you need it. I'm 6' and 215lbs. and I fit fine in the standard seats, however everyone has different preferences.

I have not priced it recently but an FE engine setup will pose some challenge to your budget limit. If you could email me directly I could work on it for you.

7173TA · #11 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 11:51 AM

Is price negotiable on an ordered car?

E5USMC · #12 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 08:02 AM

I owned a BD as my first Cobra and it was a really nice car. I swapped out to the 18" wheels for 15" wheels from Vintage Wheels as I preferred the overall look. I never bought a car from Vintage Motorsports but did by a lot of parts from them. They are TOP NOTCH !!!!

66gtk · #13 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 08:48 AM

You stated you wanted a 427. Do you want a 427 FE like the original cars or a stroked 427 Windsor based small block?

7173TA · #14 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 10:53 AM

427fe w/ 4bbl.

cycleguy55 · #15 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 7173TA

427fe w/ 4bbl.

You're not going to get a new turnkey car with a 427 FE for that price. Either a 427W for that price, additional $$ for an FE or you can look for a used one. Your call.

Mark IV · #16 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 12:16 PM

We can do a new SPF for about $75K with a Windsor 427 depending on the chassis options you want and the power level of the engine. If you are not married to the "427" cubes thing, you can get a 392/396 stroker that will provide the same or greater power level for a lot less.

It is worthwhile stretching a little to get what you really want and not selling off a "make-do" car in a short period of time.

Currently we have an SPF promotion that provides over $3000 of options at no cost.

If you want info give us a call.

Cashburn · #17 (**permalink**) 06-26-2017, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark IV

We can do a new SPF for about $75K with a Windsor 427 depending on the chassis options you want and the power level of the engine. If you are not married to the "427" cubes thing, you can get a 392/396 stroker that will provide the same or greater power level for a lot less.

It is worthwhile stretching a little to get what you really want and not selling off a "make-do" car in a short period of time.

Currently we have an SPF promotion that provides over $3000 of options at no cost.

If you want info give us a call.

Since you are here why don't you tell us what $75k gets? Pricing at the BJ auction last week did not seem to support that?

lovehamr · #18 (**permalink**) 06-27-2017, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cycleguy55

You're not going to get a new turnkey car with a 427 FE for that price. Either a 427W for that price, additional $$ for an FE or you can look for a used one. Your call.

Brian's right. All one has to do is look at 427 block prices and the folly of that becomes apparent. An FE is possible at that price point but it won't be a 427 block. Not that that is a huge bad thing as many "real" 427 Cobras came with a 428 anyway. That's what I did with my last one, found a 428 block (lots cheaper than a 427) and built a very nice engine on that platform.

BTW, + 1 on going with VMS for a new build.

patrickt · #19 (**permalink**) 06-27-2017, 06:57 AM

The sad thing is that the price point for a nice turnkey SPF, ERA, KMS, SAI has moved well north of six figures. This puts the new turnkey Cobra hobby out of reach for most guys and, unfortunately, the subset of those buyers that were also wrenching on cars is becoming smaller and smaller (because if you were spending your time working on cars in high school you have a smaller probability of being able to piss away a hundred grand on a toy 30 years later). The result is that the car gets bought, parked in a garage, a speck of dirt clogs the carb, and the car rarely, if ever gets driven, and then gets sold to a new guy that does the same thing.

RodKnock · #20 (**permalink**) 06-27-2017, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lovehamr

An FE is possible at that price point but it won't be a 427 block. Not that that is a huge bad thing as many "real" 427 Cobras came with a 428 anyway.

That's what 428 replica owners, like Patrick, keep telling themselves to continue the delusion that their cars are just as good as any replica with a real FE, er, 427.