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06-19-2022, 02:43 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by nkb
Nope, that ship has sailed. Kirkham rollers with no engine and transmission $200k plus. And $25k more if you want polished or brushed.
Fundamental change in business model.
You won’t find any pricing on the website either.
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Any idea on when prices changed so dramatically? Now I’m too nervous to ever drive my car again. 😀 |
06-19-2022, 03:15 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, ERA 289 roadster hybrid, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Any idea on when prices changed so dramatically? Now I’m too nervous to ever drive my car again. 😀
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100K for your dust covered, neglected, unloved Kirkham, can wire the funds tomorrow. Throw in a certain LB "C" and I'll up it 15K for the pair. 
Bill S.
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06-19-2022, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
100K for your dust covered, neglected, unloved Kirkham, can wire the funds tomorrow. Throw in a certain LB "C" and I'll up it 15K for the pair.
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Uh, the OP is advertising his Kirkham for $155,000. And mine has lower miles. A little margin in there for you and you already have a BIG stable. 
Apologies to Ted, I didn't mean to derail his thread. I've just been out of the loop on this site, and Cobra, specifically, Kirkham prices. I'm genuinely surprised. |
06-19-2022, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Uh, the OP is advertising his Kirkham for $155,000. And mine has lower miles. A little margin in there for you and you already have a BIG stable.
Apologies to Ted, I didn't mean to derail his thread. I've just been out of the loop on this site, and Cobra, specifically, Kirkham prices. I'm genuinely surprised. |
That wasn't a no
Bill S. 
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06-20-2022, 01:28 PM
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So, what does it cost these companies to build these cars? Kirkham, Backdraft, Shelby? What is the profit margin?
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06-21-2022, 11:35 AM
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So, what does it cost these companies to build these cars? Kirkham, Backdraft, Shelby? What is the profit margin?
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Does it matter? They need enough profit to remain in operation and invest in their businesses. Pricing will be what the market will bear. I certainly don't begrudge Kirkham, Shelby, or anyone else the profit they make.
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06-21-2022, 11:47 AM
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Last I remember, they're private companies, but for Shelby, which is a thinly traded public company. Shelby does have a positive gross profit, but negative EBITDA.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CSBI/financials?p=CSBI
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06-21-2022, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Last I remember, they're private companies, but for Shelby, which is a thinly traded public company. Shelby does have a positive gross profit, but negative EBITDA.
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CSBI/financials?p=CSBI
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SAI doesn’t make replicas… |
06-21-2022, 03:23 PM
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SAI doesn’t make replicas…
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We’ve had this discussion, years ago. Let’s agree to disagree. |
06-21-2022, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by peterpjb
SAI doesn’t make replicas…
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They didn't make original Cobras after 1967 either, just saying
Bill S.
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06-21-2022, 10:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peterpjb
SAI doesn’t make replicas…
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Production of originals ceased in 1967. Current CSX cars aren't made on original tooling so, yes, they're replicas - even with a Shelby badge.
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06-21-2022, 11:52 PM
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I agree, COX6127 was the last Cobra, sent here to the states by AC LTD, minus engine and transmission, and Cobra badges, just like CSX2000, thus completing the circle of life! As for original tooling, that gets a little more dicey. Cooper King Cobras never set foot in AC, but they are Cobra's. On the other hand, Brian Angliss cars were built on original tooling, but I don't consider those original Cobra's! AC Frua cars had serial number prefixes of, CF, Cobra Furua! I have never seen one with a Cobra emblem on the nose. But I have said it here before, modern CSX cars will never be the real deal, even if they do hold there value well!
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