Help identifying mystery frame?

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[mr bruce]

where's this frame located, I have a few bodys sitting around that should fit

[Ravine]

Originally Posted by mr bruce

where's this frame located, I have a few bodys sitting around that should fit

https://quadcities.craigslist.org/pt...585665845.html

Feel free to email me or pm me for further info on it.

csautowi@gmail.com

[Thor maine]

Looks like a Arntz/Butler but no X frame brace? Maybe it was modified or it is a knockoff ? Not familiar with Allied but maybe a Bennett?

[joyridin']

Originally Posted by Thor maine

Looks like a Arntz/Butler but no X frame brace? Maybe it was modified or it is a knockoff ? Not familiar with Allied but maybe a Bennett?

Maybe they changed the frame design over the years, but mine is a fair amount different than that one. I have no idea what they did in the front as the MGB suspension bolts in place. That looks to be a cobbled mess. Also, the area behind the seats is different. They have some metal plates in there. Mine has none of that. The bracing is different s well as the engine mounting.

[sunman]

Dean Morrison’s Allied Cobra and the Arntz Cobra have no connection.
Dean is not related to Robert Morrison who made the first Corvette body’s.

Dean built Cobras in Tampa in the late 1970’s and made the Allied Cobras in Michigan City with body bucks he brought with him from Florida starting April 82.

He sold the bucks and Cheetah tooling he had also acquired to Everett in 1983.
E-M still has and uses the body bucks Dean used at Allied.

I think Dean just used the 1980 Arntz Plan A drawing in Allied ad linked above because it was easy and if that’s what you did who was going to stop you.

Tom at E-M said the whereabouts of Dean are unknown.

[Ravine]

Originally Posted by sunman

Dean Morrison’s Allied Cobra and the Arntz Cobra have no connection.
Dean is not related to Robert Morrison who made the first Corvette body’s.

Dean built Cobras in Tampa in the late 1970’s and made the Allied Cobras in Michigan City with body bucks he brought with him from Florida starting April 82.

He sold the bucks and Cheetah tooling he had also acquired to Everett in 1983.
E-M still has and uses the body bucks Dean used at Allied.

I think Dean just used the 1980 Arntz Plan A drawing in Allied ad linked above because it was easy and if that’s what you did who was going to stop you.

Tom at E-M said the whereabouts of Dean are unknown.

Thanks again for your input on this, as well as everyone else's. I have lost all interest in further research on it. I have a tough time justifying it since the frame is unknown, and I have no history. Why is the body missing? the seller did not know and was never told when he bought. I have to assume it was in an accident, body destroyed, and the welds are where someone has attempted to repair it (poorly.) A new Shell Valley body is about $8000 in addition to the cost of this frame/axle/suspension. Put's a person into this at about $12k not inc. shipping costs, and there is a lot of missing parts. A new ERA base kit starts at around $22k.

[Ravine]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

Looks like a Arntz/Butler but no X frame brace? Maybe it was modified or it is a knockoff ? Not familiar with Allied but maybe a Bennett?

It has has been modified at the front rails ahead of the radiator and also on the roll bar mount. Was either modified and/or repaired from accident damage. I did not see any evidence of the x frame bracing ever having been there. And considering how bad the welds were where the frame was modified I think there would have been.

For the record the seller was honest and sent me photos of the areas that were of concern.

[Ravine]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

Looks like a Arntz/Butler but no X frame brace? Maybe it was modified or it is a knockoff ? Not familiar with Allied but maybe a Bennett?

I am not familiar with Bennet? To me it looks most like a cutaway drawing in one of the Allied catalogs, but not enough detail to know for sure.