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Old 10-11-2007, 12:25 PM
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The injection shown on the site is Webers. No fuel rails, no injectors, no return line. (injection doesn't work without a return line) They say the cpu is self adjusting, all engines have different requirements and need to be setup with the computer, it doesn't "self adjust" to a multitude of engines. They have been saying 60 days out for production for the past few months. When something seems to good to be true, it generally is.
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The injection shown on the site is Webers. No fuel rails, no injectors, no return line. (injection doesn't work without a return line) They say the cpu is self adjusting, all engines have different requirements and need to be setup with the computer, it doesn't "self adjust" to a multitude of engines. They have been saying 60 days out for production for the past few months. When something seems to good to be true, it generally is.
1. Not all fuel injection needs a return line. I know for a fact that the 91-94 saturn s-series have a returnless injection system, as i am sure there are MANY others but I have lots of experience working on S-series saturns.

2. The injectors are inside the housings of the carbs that you see, hence the wires protruding from them.

3. The fuel rail is made to be the carb, hence the input for fuel.

4. Prices starting at $5995, not too bad I guess for FI webers.

It's meant to NOT look like injection! guess it works! lol The cpu could adjust based on A/F ratios. I'm sure it will come in some form of limp mode for startup. the electronics portion sounds kinda iffy though. As far as time, it's always better to release somehting 2 months after it's supposed to than release a product that isn't ready and have customers unhappy. Which is why it's always best to just say.. COMING SOON!

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The injection shown on the site is Webers. No fuel rails, no injectors, no return line. (injection doesn't work without a return line) They say the cpu is self adjusting, all engines have different requirements and need to be setup with the computer, it doesn't "self adjust" to a multitude of engines. They have been saying 60 days out for production for the past few months. When something seems to good to be true, it generally is.
They also say 'Computer Managed Returnless Fuel Line', maybe they know something you dont, there is no reason that this would not work where the fuel was returned from a seperate hidden pressure canister that also had the four pressure lines to the 'Weber' throttle bodies.
Eric says he drove the car, so I assume that it works - a pic down one ram tube to show a venturi free non restricted bore would clear up the doubt. My only concern was that it could handle up to 500 HP, I would want it to be able to cope with a bit more airflow to enable more than that.

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The injection shown on the site is Webers. No fuel rails, no injectors, no return line. (injection doesn't work without a return line).
No, it's not Webers, it's their injection setup. It doesn't use rails or visible injectors. And you can definitely have a returnless fuel injection system, many companies have been doing it for years, including most 99-up Fords.
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