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12-03-2007, 09:38 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Lehigh Valley, PA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Look-a-like cobra POS
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.............we're covered. 
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12-03-2007, 11:05 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Austin,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Lonestar Classics, 302 stroked to 347; Metallic British Racing Green
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What Durt said...PERFECTLY!
Disillusionment has set in with an increasing number of owners. I eschewed as much as I could to do with Shelby on my Cobra, and labelled everything with as much AC logo-saturation as I could. After all, Carroll, you took AN ENGLISH SPORTSCAR AS YOUR STARTING POINT...
...step down very carefully from that moral pedestal on which you have erroneously installed yourself! At least DeLorean designed something ORIGINAL!
"Auto Carriers" forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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"No, I DON'T have an accent, this is how English sounds when it is pronounced correctly!"
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12-03-2007, 11:13 PM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Niederbipp ( BE ) / Switzerland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SC # 571, 472 Shelby aluminum "stroker " CSX # 299 from Gessford, 48 IDA Weber carburetors from Jim Inglese
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Durt
100% right !
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12-04-2007, 12:25 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Los Angeles,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #243 - 351W stroked to 418
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"I eschewed as much as I could to do with Shelby on my Cobra, and labelled everything with as much AC logo-saturation as I could."
That is a GREAT idea. I've never been prouder to be a FAKE owner in my life.
Last edited by Durt; 12-04-2007 at 12:44 AM..
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12-04-2007, 12:43 AM
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Durt, you know how to do it man! That was the best I've heard all day. 
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'05 FORD GT #1375, White w/ Blue Stripes, All Options
Military Vehicles, Old Motorcycles
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12-04-2007, 12:47 AM
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Thanks man. Good to see another Left Coaster up at midnight.
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12-04-2007, 12:52 AM
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Thanks man. Good to see another Left Coaster up at midnight.
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Yea, I've got some weird disease going on. I only get about 2 hours of shuteye. 
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'05 FORD GT #1375, White w/ Blue Stripes, All Options
Military Vehicles, Old Motorcycles
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12-04-2007, 01:08 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #243 - 351W stroked to 418
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"quiet time..."
Won't be when the surface dwellers read my scripture in the AM.
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12-04-2007, 12:50 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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quiet time...
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12-04-2007, 01:07 AM
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Not good. Hope that improves my friend.
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12-04-2007, 01:18 AM
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I just bought the darn Cobra emblem to put in the center of my steering wheel, back to the drawing board, I'll now be looking for an AC badge. 
By the way, where can I find the hood and trunk emblems to replace the current Cobra ones? Does somebody make them? Oh, and the Cobra license plate frame? It's toast...  |
12-04-2007, 01:20 AM
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Hehehe.....good for the soul, Durt.
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12-04-2007, 01:22 AM
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Oinie...I've always gone naked. No stinkin paint/no stinkin badges.
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12-04-2007, 03:00 AM
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Ernie,
Jamo even drove all the way up here just using the primaries of his four barrel because he was so concerned for the environment. When are you going to block the secondaries of yours so they can't open?
Ron
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12-04-2007, 05:17 AM
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Durt,
Right on, OK I know that a little outdated but I'ts AM here and that's all I could think of.
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12-04-2007, 06:10 AM
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Location: Prince Frederick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 S/C 427 FE S.O. 484 cu in
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Well I built a replica so I have all the badges.
Durt, I am sorry for your experience.
Sometimes it is better not to know the people we admire for something they have accomplished.
I have never been a star chaser and I am sure that all of them are nothing like I imagined. I would like to keep it that way. 
I would hope that SAAC will keep going on and keep everything they have in their possession.
They are a well established club and I don't think a name change would hurt their membership.
Question is, Will a Shelby Racing Team no show be an issue for the annual
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12-04-2007, 07:06 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4039 427 FE 1966- SOLD
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Durt- I agree 100%.
As for who else to help besides ourselves, I was thinking SAAC, certainly not CS.
Wouldn't it be ironic if Shelby is successful in sacking SAAC, then he dies and his companies fall apart. And, those who know enough to carry on the legend, like Ron, Ned, Rick decline, as it would give them a daily reminder of the guy. So, in the end, the name dies with him, rather than grows post mortum. How ironic.
As for, "Sometimes it is better not to know the people we admire for something they have accomplished." That's probably true for a lot of folks. I have a patient who toured personally with Hillary Clinton for years as military attache' for Bill. Says she washes her hands furiously after coming back off stage, to get the disgusting, slimey people off her hands. I'm sure lots of popularity hounds are like that.
Regarding SAAC stepping in when CS couldn't have cared less, does CS have the law behind him with regard to his suit? If I take something that you've put in your garbage at the street, 30 years later, who owns it? Seems to me SAAC would win in court. No wrist slitting needed.
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12-04-2007, 07:31 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX 4766 (Vegas Built) with 482 Aluminum Pond motor
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I am one that does not agree with Durt!
[quote=CSX 4039]Durt- I agree 100%.QUOTE]
Since I was at Peterson's covering the event for the Norcal Shelby Club. I saw Shelby sign FOR FREE autograph for anyone who wanted one on anything. I have proof of that all over my office. I guess you really are a leper or a liar. 
Your diatribe is filled with inaccuracies and you place blame on Carroll for events in which he had no control or involvement in many of the situations, which you state. Here accuracies and facts are not important when most peoples goals are to slam an individual who is not here to defend himself.
Now you can go back to having fun.
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12-04-2007, 07:42 AM
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[quote=RedCSX1]
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Durt- I agree 100%.QUOTE]
Since I was at Peterson's covering the event for the Norcal Shelby Club. I saw Shelby sign FOR FREE autograph for anyone who wanted one on anything. I have proof of that all over my office. I guess you really are a leper or a liar.
Your diatribe is filled with inaccuracies and you place blame on Carroll for events in which he had no control or involvement in many of the situations, which you state. Here accuracies and facts are not important when most peoples goals are to slam an individual who is not here to defend himself.
Now you can go back to having fun.
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Okay. Noted. Most of us weren't there. When I bought my Cobra, I knew none of the history of CS. I just had wanted a Cobra since I was 10 years old.
I guess my point is, when I found this site, with all the haranging, and found out about CS's history, at least as far as portrayed here, I had the same disapointment that Durt described. I guess I agree with his sentiment 100%, but have no first-hand knowledge of any of the facts.
Signing some stuff for free doesn't give him a free pass on suing SAAC though, imo.
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12-04-2007, 10:32 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique, 427SO, it runs
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Damned amazingly fine job, Durt! Your post sums up my Shelby development process exactly, as I am precisely where you are. I've reached the point where the "old man" has sickened me past the point of repair.
I'll keep my POS replica and enjoy it from time-to-time, but I don't feel nearly as "dirty" driving my C6 Z06, as another great poster noted above. It is too bad a previous owner drilled holes in the POS, for these little badges he put on, but, of course, I can get those fixed at some point.
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