Club Cobra GasN Exhaust  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Cobra Talk Areas > ALL COBRA TALK

Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
November 2025
S M T W T F S
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30            

Kirkham Motorsports

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 11-26-2007, 09:31 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Outside Miami, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Several
Posts: 949
Not Ranked     
Default

Nedley
If i gave you the blueprints to the car for your use, i would certainly expect my blueprints back, unless i specifically said at the time you could keep them. But, nothing prevents you from making quality copies for your own use as the information is now public and that publication was accepted by CS et al. To further the objectives of open source availability of data to aid in preventing deceptions, you might separately publish those docs.

IMHO, you are the only person who has taken that Cobra raw material and created an important product and service with the use of same. Your work and imagination were important and the critical value-added to not only create both the product and service, but particularly to "police" the various frauds that continue to be foisted on a moderately unsophisticated public. SAAC certainly retains ownership of the publishing of that data, IMO; but that might be contended. My only point was that contention is more likely when one picks a public fight and uses charged language gratuitously.

i realize that others have managed other car histories in the Registry.

Turk
You may certainly criticize my lack of insider knowledge. Or anything else you wish. But, at some point this story will get a reality check and we shall see what we shall see. i see the lawyer's letter as only an initial attempt at getting what Shel' thinks is his own property back. Is there a previously initial letter and are you privy to it?

If it is true that SAAC have not even responded to two letters, have purposely avoided publishing a more conciliatory initial lawyer's letter and have firstly responded with this amateurish press release, SAAC isn't the good guy and won't be found such by most folks. Seeking defense funds from the public and not making all those communications available might be quite a further error of judgement.

It is often quite inconvenient to have to hold elections, just to prove the poll results. Legal cases are frequently similar, right up to the day of court.

Perhaps i haven't learned much about this issue yet compared to the more cognizant and inside informed amongst us. You seem certain, so i accept that at the moment, as a given. Hopefully you will keep us all up to speed with your insider knowledge, to keep us from going too far astray. Your forecast of the outcome of this contest will be read with interest by this plebeian.
--------------------

Just because FORD and Shelby have current "issues" doesn't mean FORD will let their one-man PR personality be "screwed-over", even by himself. Too much future at stake.

i watched the British side of the Angliss/Shelby affair from close near-daily proximity in Weybridge, as a valued frequent customer and friend and knew Shel' was blowing smoke from his asymptote. And so it came to pass. i similarly watched the Angliss/FORD argument and knew sufficient Brit law to be confident that Angliss would prevail in the UK. And so it came to pass.
i also forecasted that the British public and automotive trade-press would not support FORD's attack on Angliss. And so it came to pass. FORD came away looking very bad and they deserved it.

i caution SAAC again to get better PR advice on this (not me, i am biased both ways) and act with wisdom, sans smart-assymetry. The public will not smile on anyone that sullies their heros for no good reason.

For example, observe Hollywood's current attempt to denigrate our troops (and thereby the President) with the soldier's rape of a 14 year-old Iraqi girl using mega-star power and cubic money. Quite differently than Henry Nostrilitis Waxman's salivating spittle-mouth, the public are staying away from Hollywood's anti-war BullPuckey in droves. People do not want to see truly ugly, insulting and unfair behavior as cover for political lies and political purposes.

Raising the argument to stratospheric and public heights is not an effective opening strategy or gambit with a genuine hot-head. He will see your bid and raise it just for the excitement. Remember, he is a race winner that bet his life on the outcome of those races, with no quarter given or opportunity missed. Even his lawyers likely do not understand who they have as a client.

It will be interesting, to be sure, but i wouldn't take on anyone that can publish their point of view by the 55-gallon barrels of ink and megawatts of TV interviews, without serious supporting contractual & legal documentation, which has been at least unrevealed to date.

It is less likely to re-establish the status quo ante bellum if the antagonist is convinced we are grossly unfair or/and congenital liars-by-omission, not worth re-establishment.
__________________
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
George Washington
Reply With Quote
 


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:58 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink