Continuation CSX a "Kit car"?

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Chaplain

I think Mrmustang alluded to an important issue, and I apologize if I've misinterpreted his point.....if you bought the car to fulfill anybody elses dream but your own, then you may have made a poor choice regardless of the cars origin.

Thank you, finally, someone gets it.


Bill S.

PS: As for it being real, if you can touch it, then yes, it's real

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Chaplain

I think Mrmustang alluded to an important issue, and I apologize if I've misinterpreted his point.....if you bought the car to fulfill anybody elses dream but your own, then you may have made a poor choice regardless of the cars origin.

Which reminds me of the story of the young man on his wedding night. After he had removed his clothes, his blushing bride took one look at his diminutive member and said "And just who do you think you're going to please with that?" To which the young groom smiled and replied, "Me."

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Chaplain

I think Mrmustang alluded to an important issue, and I apologize if I've misinterpreted his point.....if you bought the car to fulfill anybody elses dream but your own, then you may have made a poor choice regardless of the cars origin.

If that is the case, then don't you think that those people have a right to their dream, and a right to not have it smeared and tainted all over the internet by people who don't share that dream?

[ENTDOC]

freedom of speech protects both the dreamer and the non dreamer, so the dreamer has the right to his dream and anyone that wants to critique or criticize that dream has that right also. Assholes are equally protected in this country

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by ENTDOC

Assholes are equally protected in this country

Dang, nothing like a "cheery bedside manner..."

[ENTDOC]

it was a tongue in cheek comment

[Chaplain]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

If that is the case, then don't you think that those people have a right to their dream, and a right to not have it smeared and tainted all over the internet by people who don't share that dream?

Huh, could you repeat that in English please.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Chaplain

Huh, could you repeat that in English please.

Translation:

It was pointed out that you should buy a car to fullfill your dream, not someone else's.

My repsonse was that those who have done just that, should have the right to not have their dreams trashed by those who don't share that dream.

Of course, as pointed out after THAT, freedom of speech gives people the right to trash other people's dreams.

Then add Club Cobra to the mix, and you've got a place were any CSX related thread can be turned into the same old arguement by the same old non-CSX owners with nothing better to do. But don't you dare try doing that to a Kirkham owner, or an ERA owner, or any other brand for that matter.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

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Then add Club Cobra to the mix, and you've got a place were any CSX related thread can be turned into the same old arguement by the same old non-CSX owners with nothing better to do. But don't you dare try doing that to a Kirkham owner, or an ERA owner, or any other brand for that matter.

Strange, when Evan does not reply on a csx related thread, the people who normally bash him are not here to chime in.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

Translation:

It was pointed out that you should buy a car to fullfill your dream, not someone else's.

My repsonse was that those who have done just that, should have the right to not have their dreams trashed by those who don't share that dream.

Nobody is out to trash anyone else's dream. It's when reality gets in the way that the dream vanishes. There are those out there that live in their own dream world, some of those people attempt to turn that dream into everyone else's dream and this is what the trouble begins. As stated above, no matter what you have, aluminum, plastic, carbon fiber, brass, or whatever else they have made these cars out of, if it was not originally built in the 60's, then it is not an original 60's Cobra. That really is the bottom line, one that even you agree with I believe......


Bill S.

[Excaliber]

Good point Jamo, no matter WHAT you got for a Cobra, if it wasn't built in the 60's you still gotta 'assplain' it. I DO get tired of the story as it concerns my ERA, which is far less complicated than the story with my Excalibur, but still, 'pull up a chair while I tell the tale.'

It's enough to make a guy wanna sell everything to score an orginal just so you won't have to 'go there' when it's story time.

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Good point Jamo, no matter WHAT you got for a Cobra, if it wasn't built in the 60's you still gotta 'assplain' it. I DO get tired of the story as it concerns my ERA, which is far less complicated than the story with my Excalibur, but still, 'pull up a chair while I tell the tale.'

It's enough to make a guy wanna sell everything to score an orginal just so you won't have to 'go there' when it's story time.

And, what's even worse than that, is the curse of the CSX owner. Where you are caught in the middle of trying to explain to someone how the car is sold by Shelby, but not back in the 60s.

[Jamo]

Sal, ergo my reference to a treatise being needed for a CSX versus explanations for other makes.

I don't see a single post anywhere in this thread that trashes CSXs. It is not "trashing" for folks to disagree with your oft-repeated definitive definition of what you definitely believe.

[RodKnock]

To borrow ENT's word of "nomenclature", the modern CSX Cobras have that inherent issue of "real" or "original" or "replica." Everyone else's Cobra is a replica. So there's no dispute. The CSX can cause a dispute amongst the crowd.

[ZOERA-SC7XX]

Another question I've not seen answered here...is the CSX 4XXX serial number on the MSO retained by the state on the new title, or did the state issue its own new serial number and ID tag? I ask this because the CT DMV will issue my (ERA 718) car a new Serial number not identifying it as ERA XXX

[mrmustang]

It's a floor wax (insert real Cobra here)
It's a desert topping (it's an original Shelby product)

It's both (real but not "an" original Cobra), new Shimmer is a floor wax and a dessert topping.

[Excaliber]

Many state's will issue THEIR own version of a vin which will supercede whatever vin the car originally had.

I still maintain that registering your replica as a 1965 model AND year is fraught with potential problems, as it pertains to resale. Because, as was mentioned, the laws vary from state to state and transfering such a title, depending on the state, could be a nightmare. The deal could come back to haunt you. Best approach, tell it like is, a 1965 MODEL without implying that is also the year of build.

CSX4039, uh, yeah I know of a couple of cars that would fall under your interpretation. One specifically built in a home garage by parts gathered from here and there by a non professional. Another built in a professional garage but along the same lines (parts gathered here and there). Both 'blessed' by Shelby. With that blessing it becomes the 'real deal', a genuine Shelby continuation creation. It's all about acquiring the coveted CSX vin number, once you got that, your in!

[ZOERA-SC7XX]

But what about the original Shelby Cobras. Do they get to keep their real CSX Serial numbers on the title, even if sold to a new owner and/or registered in a another state?

[Excaliber]

ZOERA, man I would be aghast if some state, ANY state would change an original Vin for an original car from 1965. The very fact that my car is in fact a 'replica' gives the state license to issue an appropriate vin. In Hawaii, that would also apply to a modern CSX car (sad though that be).

[ZOERA-SC7XX]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

ZOERA, man I would be aghast if some state, ANY state would change an original Vin for an original car from 1965. The very fact that my car is in fact a 'replica' gives the state license to issue an appropriate vin. In Hawaii, that would also apply to a modern CSX car (sad though that be).

Just my point. Replicas are assigned DMV issued VIN #'s. Originals are allowed to keep the original VIN #'s. Doesn't this fact identify a replica, regardless of who produced it?