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04-28-2009, 08:26 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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Thanks for all the info, both good and bad.
I am going to go to my local SPF dealer, Hillbank Motorcars in Irvine, this weekend and take a drive in one.
I got to crawl all over a BDR at the Knotts show and want to compare it to the SPF (which had a display 50 feet away but I was so into crawling all over the BDR's that I failed to compare to their cars).
As an aside, if I end up with a SPF, can I then thumb my nose at the FFR cars?
Just kidding FFR owners (of which I am one).
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04-28-2009, 08:29 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by jhv48
As an aside, if I end up with a SPF, can I then thumb my nose at the FFR cars?
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Thumb your nose, yes -- guffaw, no. To do that you have to move up to a Kirkham or an ERA....  |
04-28-2009, 08:35 AM
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Both of those are out of my price range.
A polished Kirkham would occupy my living room as a permanent fixture.
Would never have the guts to drive it and maybe get a bug spot on it.
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04-28-2009, 08:38 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by jhv48
A polished Kirkham would occupy my living room as a permanent fixture.
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On a sunny day the FFR guys can't see you thumbing your nose from inside a fully polished Kirkham anyway -- thus the need for the hearty guffaw. |
04-28-2009, 10:28 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Thumb your nose, yes -- guffaw, no. To do that you have to move up to a Kirkham or an ERA.... |
With that CSX4000 recently selling for $40K +/- on eBay, why not buy a CSX and thumb your nose at everyone.  |
04-28-2009, 10:29 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
With that CSX4000 recently selling for $40K +/- on eBay, why not buy a CSX and thumb your nose at everyone. |
But you have to explain to people that you settled for the poorest quality in exchange for an authentic name.... |
04-28-2009, 10:50 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by patrickt
But you have to explain to people that you settled for the poorest quality in exchange for an authentic name....
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Ruh Roh.
At $40K +/- for a roller, isn't a CSX a viable option? |
04-28-2009, 11:06 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: San Clemente,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4758, CSX 381 Keith Craft 482 w/ Weber 48 IDA's
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Originally Posted by patrickt
But you have to explain to people that you settled for the poorest quality in exchange for an authentic name....
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Tsk, tsk. There is no substitute for first hand experience when making bold statements on a specific issue. I have a totally different first hand experience with CSX cars than what you are passing on from others who you may not personally know. You mean to say you've actually wrenched on a CSX and found it to be the poorest quality over something else that you personally worked on? Or just hearsay? |
04-28-2009, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rokndad
Tsk, tsk. There is no substitute for first hand experience when making bold statements on a specific issue. I have a totally different first hand experience with CSX cars than what you are passing on from others who you may not personally know. You mean to say you've actually wrenched on a CSX and found it to be the poorest quality over something else that you personally worked on? Or just hearsay?
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No, I was just trying to incite trouble.... |
04-28-2009, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
No, I was just trying to incite trouble....
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OK, I can live with that. |
04-28-2009, 11:13 AM
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No, I was just trying to incite trouble....
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So atypical of you.
Actually, it's usually the FFR crowd that gets the brunt of your "attacks." |
06-09-2009, 01:49 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 289FIA, 289 stroked to 331, 392 HP
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rokndad
Tsk, tsk. There is no substitute for first hand experience when making bold statements on a specific issue. I have a totally different first hand experience with CSX cars than what you are passing on from others who you may not personally know. You mean to say you've actually wrenched on a CSX and found it to be the poorest quality over something else that you personally worked on? Or just hearsay?
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The first CSX I saw had to have most of the wiring and all of the fuel and brake lines rerouted because Las Vegas routed them in such a way as to make them susceptible to severe damage under normal driving conditions. The second one I saw Las Vegas put the wrong gas tank in, even the filler neck was in the wrong place (3-4 inches off). They had to have known about the mistake but shipped them anyway. The owners were both left to fix them themselves. The one with the fuel tank screw up found out when he ran the tank dry and was only able to put 15 gallons back in.
Turned me off to them!
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06-09-2009, 02:04 PM
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Congrats on the decision. You'll be getting a nice ride!
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06-09-2009, 02:54 PM
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Location: San Diego,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF1715, Roush Built 434 ci Stroker, Dart Block, Ported AFR 205 Heads... 561 hp / 547 tq, Former Roush Show Car, Completed and Prepped By Olthoff Racing.
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Originally Posted by WarrenG
The first CSX I saw had to have most of the wiring and all of the fuel and brake lines rerouted because Las Vegas routed them in such a way as to make them susceptible to severe damage under normal driving conditions. The second one I saw Las Vegas put the wrong gas tank in, even the filler neck was in the wrong place (3-4 inches off). They had to have known about the mistake but shipped them anyway. The owners were both left to fix them themselves. The one with the fuel tank screw up found out when he ran the tank dry and was only able to put 15 gallons back in.
Turned me off to them!
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I have seen the newer ones built in SA next to one of the older ones. The SA built car was far superior in build quality. One of the places that has done some work on my car was a Shelby dealer when they were being built in Mexico, and they said they had to rebuild some of the cars because the poor condition they were recieved in. |
04-28-2009, 11:59 AM
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Location: Santa Cruz,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2613 Titanium w/Black, Roush 402SR
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
With that CSX4000 recently selling for $40K +/- on eBay, why not buy a CSX and thumb your nose at everyone. |
Some would agree, except for the guy that sold his SPF to buy a CSX and was disappointed in the quality of the CSX. 
http://www.sandiegoautonews.com/MAGAZINE.html
Time to leave the thread again before the full scale turf wars begin.
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04-28-2009, 09:47 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates/Shell Valley Street Cobra
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If I was that close to Hillbank...
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Originally Posted by jhv48
Thanks for all the info, both good and bad.
I am going to go to my local SPF dealer, Hillbank Motorcars in Irvine, this weekend and take a drive in one.
I got to crawl all over a BDR at the Knotts show and want to compare it to the SPF (which had a display 50 feet away but I was so into crawling all over the BDR's that I failed to compare to their cars).
As an aside, if I end up with a SPF, can I then thumb my nose at the FFR cars?
Just kidding FFR owners (of which I am one).
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I would have to give very serious consideration to their cars. I should also add that the "dealer" who I bought from is no longer in business and I suspect that Lance is doing everything practical to improve the quality of the product and the dealerships. I hear nothing but good things about Gear Six in Boise (Wayne) and Hillbank and others. BUT I will say again, if I was in the market, I would buy a used sorted car. It was my intention to get a SPF GT40 this spring, but largely because of my problems I will likely only consider a Ford GT....a production car with a dealer every 50 miles...Just my 2 cents... ps... I get no satisfaction from thumming my nose at anyone, that doesn't validate my choices...
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04-28-2009, 01:00 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA slabside on order
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
Thanks for all the info, both good and bad.
I am going to go to my local SPF dealer, Hillbank Motorcars in Irvine, this weekend and take a drive in one.
I got to crawl all over a BDR at the Knotts show and want to compare it to the SPF (which had a display 50 feet away but I was so into crawling all over the BDR's that I failed to compare to their cars).
As an aside, if I end up with a SPF, can I then thumb my nose at the FFR cars?
Just kidding FFR owners (of which I am one).
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Jim - During your visit to Hillbank make sure you mention how much you admire Nelson Mandela. And when you leave it's customary to say "Jou ma se poes" which is Afrikaner for have a nice day.
Good luck! |
04-28-2009, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Oil
Jim - During your visit to Hillbank make sure you mention how much you admire Nelson Mandela. And when you leave it's customary to say "Jou ma se poes" which is Afrikaner for have a nice day.
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I like a Cobra that's built in America. You don't see that posted much around here, but it does matter to me. |
04-30-2009, 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by jhv48
As an aside, if I end up with a SPF, can I then thumb my nose at the FFR cars?
Just kidding FFR owners (of which I am one).
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Pretty hard to do that though if your frame is built out of 2
and a whole lot of
Notice that I also used the special South African glittery glue to be genuine |
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