Continuing saga for Roush 511 - Page 4

Got the Bug · #1 (**permalink**) 02-17-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mulv

Really? I have a GT40 crate motor in my Mustang that with minor mods make about 400-425 hp depending on the dyno and it cost about $5500- to get it to the drop in to the car stage. A Roush 327 that makes 350 HP costs more than 10 grand... now what isn't true? 550 HP from a big block is how much? $42K? I doubt it... if it is 20 it is too much... here is a 521 from Ford that makes big power and costs less than $10K.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Ford+Racing/39...521FT/10002/-1

Think the pulleys, alternator and carb cost $30K? Even the fuel injection can be had for about $7K.. here , have another KoolAid...

Oh yeah and these engines work and have a guarantee that will be honoured....

A Ford Racing engine similar to a Roush 327 will run you $7,500, and comparable Keith Craft engine is in that range as well. So not double on that comparison.

On the 511, if you say that the Ford crate needs nothing more that a $7K FI system, then you got me. Hey, I didn't drink the Kool-aid on that one.

Stentor · #2 (**permalink**) 02-18-2010, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Mulv

550 HP from a big block is how much? $42K? I doubt it... if it is 20 it is too much... here is a 521 from Ford that makes big power and costs less than $10K.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Ford+Racing/39...521FT/10002/-1

Think the pulleys, alternator and carb cost $30K? Even the fuel injection can be had for about $7K.. here , have another KoolAid...

Oh yeah and these engines work and have a guarantee that will be honoured....

I am certainly not sticking up for Roush....but let's keep our facts straight. The 521 ci motor from Ford to which you referred is a carbureted 385-series-based motor--not a stack fuel-injected FE (which is what CSX4910's motor is). Furthermore, I believe the 511 Roush FE makes 600 HP, not 550 HP.

Roush does charge a premium for their motors--the price of their 511 IR FE is probably roughly $10k above what you would pay to a reputable FE builder (e.g., Keith Craft) for a similarly equipped engine. And yes, you could get more HP from one of the other builders from a similar engine.

In any event, what these guys are experiencing with their Roush motors sucks--as I've said before. And Roush needs to make things right.

vector1 · #3 (**permalink**) 02-18-2010, 02:35 AM

here's what my gen7 ecu looks like. if it is the same you are welcome to try it. i would see what roush has planned for recourse first, maybe they will provide one, but if their plan is not satisfactory or you want to try it you are welcome. does your setup have a datalogger, that is what makes these systems so nice, i can't imagine trying to tune by yourself without one. no airleaks in the exhaust, any at all? here's my email, i'd like to look at your tune. goingin12@hotmail.com

DWRAT · #4 (**permalink**) 02-23-2010, 08:03 PM

50 pounds lighter in 5 1/2 months, was that because of warring about the car?
I hope all goes well when you get it.

csx4910 · #5 (**permalink**) 02-23-2010, 08:26 PM

I feel like I have aged about 5 years but the weight it from my gastric bypass surgery. I am down a total of 140 punds since April1 of 2009. (Just following our fearless leader mickiec)

DWRAT · #6 (**permalink**) 02-23-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by csx4910

I feel like I have aged about 5 years but the weight it from my gastric bypass surgery. I am down a total of 140 punds since April1 of 2009. (Just following our fearless leader mickiec)

Only problem is less weight equals less traction.

mikiec · #7 (**permalink**) 02-25-2010, 09:59 AM

Way to go...

Congrats on getting the car back and for the weight loss. I've been stuck at 155 lbs down for the past 2 months.

Mike

csx4910 · #8 (**permalink**) 02-25-2010, 10:17 AM

That is still awesome Mickiec,
I dont think I will lose any more. I have been at this weight for almost 3 months now - unless I start exercising better. (not probably going to happen!!)Unless drviing the cobra countsas exercise. I do need to strengthen my left leg for the clutch but luckily there is nothing wrong with my right foot.

rodneym · #9 (**permalink**) 02-25-2010, 10:30 AM

Good Luck and Enjoy it!
You deserve it!

rodneym

twobjshelbys · #10 (**permalink**) 06-11-2010, 08:30 PM

How's your car running? I got mine back this week and I'm certain if I was at sea level (or Detroit) it would be perfect. The altitude compensation table is "0.0" all entries so no compensation. So I'm running the same parameters as they did. Now I can tell you for a fact that that if the engine had carbs that the jets would be changed to operate correctly here, so I'm just waiting for the magic table to apply the "virtual jets".

Got the Bug · #11 (**permalink**) 06-11-2010, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

How's your car running? I got mine back this week and I'm certain if I was at sea level (or Detroit) it would be perfect. The altitude compensation table is "0.0" all entries so no compensation. So I'm running the same parameters as they did. Now I can tell you for a fact that that if the engine had carbs that the jets would be changed to operate correctly here, so I'm just waiting for the magic table to apply the "virtual jets".

Have you thought about yanking the FI and going with carb? I know that you're into it for another $3K, but it may be easier to find an expert in your area to fine tune a carb vs. the FI for your elevation.

twobjshelbys · #12 (**permalink**) 06-11-2010, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Got the Bug

Have you thought about yanking the FI and going with carb? I know that you're into it for another $3K, but it may be easier to find an expert in your area to fine tune a carb vs. the FI for your elevation.

I got the FI so I wouldn't have to muck around going from here to Vegas. It'll work some time real soon now. I just know it.

Rwillia4 · #13 (**permalink**) 06-12-2010, 01:40 PM

If you are running an O2 sensor it will adjust automatically. Which means you will probably have the same problem you are having now at sea level. You need an in-car FI adjustment.