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Old 08-08-2018, 07:29 AM
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Default 1994 Integrity Coach Works Cobra on BAT

There is a 1994 cobra on BAT built by Integrity Coach Works in 1994, no reserve. Were they a good builder ? This could be a good buy.
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Old 08-08-2018, 07:34 AM
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I have never heard of them...........
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Old 08-08-2018, 08:29 AM
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Scotty, here is an old CC thread on the same question: Integrity Coach Works
AND a thread on the now Hunter Cobra: Hunter Cobra
AND this thread even has comments from a guy who has had both Hunter & FFR: https://www.ffcars.com/forums/43-off...ter-cobra.html
I reviewed the BAT ad and you are right, it may be a good investment to flip, plus, the colors are right. LOL The boss 302 motor is worth $6K.
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Old 08-08-2018, 03:01 PM
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I reviewed the BAT ad and you are right, it may be a good investment to flip, plus, the colors are right. LOL The boss 302 motor is worth $6K.
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I can't say for certain, but I think those are Boss 302 valve covers sitting on an adapter to Windsor small block heads. The intake manifold doesn't look right for a Boss.
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Looks like Cleveland valve covers. Did the boss 302 have offset valve
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Old 08-08-2018, 08:05 PM
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Years ago one of John's (from Anthem) employees was building a hunter. It looked OK.
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Old 08-09-2018, 06:51 AM
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Looks like Cleveland valve covers. Did the boss 302 have offset valve
The Boss 302 heads were essentially Cleveland heads fitted to the Windsor block. Cleveland heads will bolt to a Windsor block but it requires a special intake manifold.

If you look at the close up of the carburetor, you can see something grey just below the valve cover - I think that's a spacer/adapter to make the Boss valve covers fit a Windsor head. Also, if you look at the header side of the the valve cover, it seems to hang out over the headers and header flange quite a bit. Another thing: Boss intake ports are larger and more rounded than the Windsor; those just look like regular 289/302 intake port shapes to me. I think someone wanted the panache of a Boss 302 without spending the big bucks.

I haven't fooled with the Boss parts in nearly 40 years, so I'm a little rusty on ID.
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I think Stan has a point. If you look at this picture of the BOSS 302
http://www.bosskraft.com/uploads/9/3...41172_orig.jpg
The intake manifold looks deeper and wider than in the ad.
https://cdn.bringatrailer.com/wp-con...16-620x414.jpg

It may be just an optical conclusion, but sure looks different to me..
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I was told the Cleveland blocks were completely different and the parts didn't interchange. Do the Cleveland heads fit on a 302 or 351W?

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I was told the Cleveland blocks were completely different and the parts didn't interchange. Do the Cleveland heads fit on a 302 or 351W?
Cleveland heads will bolt on to a Windsor block (and vice versa, but why would you?) but there are water passage issues. The issues have work arounds that aren't too horrible. The biggest issue as I recall was getting an intake to fit. Several manufacturers now make such manifolds but they're about double the cost of your basic Edelbrock.

The blocks are definitely different (main bearings, deck height, oiling configuration, etc...) but that didn't prevent the head bolt pattern from being the same. I suspect that Ford was using a 302 to prototype the Cleveland head design and someone said "Wow! This would be a beast in Trans AM!" The tunnel port 302 was sort of a dud with a narrow rpm band.

Again, its been 40 years, I'm probably off base on something, but not much.
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