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08-08-2018, 07:29 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Paradise Valley,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR MK3/302/570 street avenger
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1994 Integrity Coach Works Cobra on BAT
There is a 1994 cobra on BAT built by Integrity Coach Works in 1994, no reserve. Were they a good builder ? This could be a good buy.
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08-08-2018, 07:34 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: North of Toronto,
Ont
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #1950, Roush 402R, TKO600
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I have never heard of them...........
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08-08-2018, 08:29 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Glendale,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 468ci 550HP + 150HP NX Matching Shelby GT500 650HP
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Scotty, here is an old CC thread on the same question: Integrity Coach Works
AND a thread on the now Hunter Cobra: Hunter Cobra
AND this thread even has comments from a guy who has had both Hunter & FFR: https://www.ffcars.com/forums/43-off...ter-cobra.html
I reviewed the BAT ad and you are right, it may be a good investment to flip, plus, the colors are right. LOL The boss 302 motor is worth $6K.
AZ Bob
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08-08-2018, 03:01 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Phoenix area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 396 Windsor Stroker (Formerly: Unique 427 powered by a 351W with mysterious innards)
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Originally Posted by Bob Broberg SPF667 460BB
I reviewed the BAT ad and you are right, it may be a good investment to flip, plus, the colors are right. LOL The boss 302 motor is worth $6K.
AZ Bob[/b]
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I can't say for certain, but I think those are Boss 302 valve covers sitting on an adapter to Windsor small block heads. The intake manifold doesn't look right for a Boss.
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08-08-2018, 06:50 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mesa,
AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Classic, 428 FE CCX 3069
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Looks like Cleveland valve covers. Did the boss 302 have offset valve
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08-08-2018, 08:05 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Gilford,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR 302 carb
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Years ago one of John's (from Anthem) employees was building a hunter. It looked OK.
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08-09-2018, 06:51 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Phoenix area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 396 Windsor Stroker (Formerly: Unique 427 powered by a 351W with mysterious innards)
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Originally Posted by Danr55
Looks like Cleveland valve covers. Did the boss 302 have offset valve
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The Boss 302 heads were essentially Cleveland heads fitted to the Windsor block. Cleveland heads will bolt to a Windsor block but it requires a special intake manifold.
If you look at the close up of the carburetor, you can see something grey just below the valve cover - I think that's a spacer/adapter to make the Boss valve covers fit a Windsor head. Also, if you look at the header side of the the valve cover, it seems to hang out over the headers and header flange quite a bit. Another thing: Boss intake ports are larger and more rounded than the Windsor; those just look like regular 289/302 intake port shapes to me. I think someone wanted the panache of a Boss 302 without spending the big bucks.
I haven't fooled with the Boss parts in nearly 40 years, so I'm a little rusty on ID.
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08-09-2018, 10:23 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Classic, 428 FE CCX 3069
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I think Stan has a point. If you look at this picture of the BOSS 302
http://www.bosskraft.com/uploads/9/3...41172_orig.jpg
The intake manifold looks deeper and wider than in the ad.
https://cdn.bringatrailer.com/wp-con...16-620x414.jpg
It may be just an optical conclusion, but sure looks different to me..
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08-09-2018, 02:51 PM
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I was told the Cleveland blocks were completely different and the parts didn't interchange. Do the Cleveland heads fit on a 302 or 351W?
Last edited by MKS427; 08-09-2018 at 03:08 PM..
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08-09-2018, 04:01 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 396 Windsor Stroker (Formerly: Unique 427 powered by a 351W with mysterious innards)
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I was told the Cleveland blocks were completely different and the parts didn't interchange. Do the Cleveland heads fit on a 302 or 351W?
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Cleveland heads will bolt on to a Windsor block (and vice versa, but why would you?) but there are water passage issues. The issues have work arounds that aren't too horrible. The biggest issue as I recall was getting an intake to fit. Several manufacturers now make such manifolds but they're about double the cost of your basic Edelbrock.
The blocks are definitely different (main bearings, deck height, oiling configuration, etc...) but that didn't prevent the head bolt pattern from being the same. I suspect that Ford was using a 302 to prototype the Cleveland head design and someone said "Wow! This would be a beast in Trans AM!" The tunnel port 302 was sort of a dud with a narrow rpm band.
Again, its been 40 years, I'm probably off base on something, but not much.
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07-04-2021, 09:17 AM
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Does anyone know if this car is available anywhere? I built this car. I was the lead mechanic for Integrity coach works in Stuart Florida. I'm looking for cars I built to purchase.
Best regards,
JWG
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07-04-2021, 11:58 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-FIA, 66 mustang convertible, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Does anyone know if this car is available anywhere? I built this car. I was the lead mechanic for Integrity coach works in Stuart Florida. I'm looking for cars I built to purchase.
Best regards,
JWG
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An almost 3 year old thread
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07-07-2021, 07:27 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JWG
Does anyone know if this car is available anywhere? I built this car. I was the lead mechanic for Integrity coach works in Stuart Florida. I'm looking for cars I built to purchase.
Best regards,
JWG
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I remember that car. Integrity built some nice original details into their cars back in the day. Good luck with your search and keep us posted.
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