New regs and testing requirements - NSW - AU

[SydneyChris]

ok... 30 mins with the Engineer later...

The CHANGE is that the RMS will, until further notice, perform detailed inspections of all ICV and hot rod ICV vehicles.

This is apparently as a result of a small proportion of the Engineering community submitting inspection reports for vehicles that were never either inspected or would clearly fail the relevant criteria for safety and compliance. As a result the RMS has taken a good deal of the Engineer's discretion in the inspection process back in house.

The RMS will require paperwork for ALL components of the vehicle that are covered by the applicable Australian Standards... I believe its within the range of ADR 01 - ARD 83, with not all ADR's applicable to ICV's.

For all components included above that are not from an ADR compliant vehicle, individual testing or calculation reports consistent with the requirements of the relevant ADR will be required. eg, uni and CV joints, drive shaft calcs, steering shaft torsion, seat belt mounting / anchorage points.....

Basically for either the owner / builder or the Engineer there is now several inches of paperwork required to provide explicit and comprehensive compliance of the installed components with the relevant ADR's.

None of the above would apparently restrict the ability of the inspector on the day to defect the vehicle.

Apologies if I scattered the pigeons.. ! Technically the regs havent changed, but the process and the jurisdiction of the Certifying Engineer has undergone significant revision.

[stephen low]

Guys its different in each State.

For Victoria the certifying engineer requests the VIN from Vicroads once having undertaken the inspection.

I believe this process was implemented a number of years ago as there were a lot of VIN's issues to cars as WIP that never reached it to registration. So a lot of vacant spots in the VIN register.

Makes some sense for managing the numbers as only cars that have achieved sign off and hence likely to proceed to that final step are being supplied a VIN.

But each State to their own sadly!

[just dreamin]

Isn't bureaucracy great ? Instead of fixing the engineering/inspection problem with the appointed engineers they decide to take on the workload themselves.

Given that the whole country is contracting out anything that isn't nailed down so that the fat cats can sit and supervise the work being done, you have to ask what's driving this change ?

Surly the dept. has better things to do than taking on this can of worms or have they all run out of work. I cant wait for the next instalment.

[PeterAllen]

Originally Posted by just dreamin

Isn't bureaucracy great ? Instead of fixing the engineering/inspection problem with the appointed engineers...

I read the situation as some of those engineers lacking integrity being the problem.

I assumed there would already be a random audit process in place as I believe there is for pink and blue slips.

[alffie]

Chris
I would be going to see Treeve if I was you, your engineer seems to have never done an ICV before? A RMS inspection adding 12 months and a lot of money to your already done engineering? My engineer had to submit all the same paperwork as yours is now saying he has to do at extra cost? Iam in the NT and we seem to have the smoothest rego process of all the states, My MVR inspector even did a noise test even though it was on the engineers report and accepted by the MVR when I got my VIN.
I wouldnt spend to much time worrying about having to get an RMS inspection, all they check is what RTA does when you get the first rego inspection. (unless ofcourse your car doesnt have what your paperwork says)

[Zedn]

If your engineer is having to do more work, perhaps he's the reason for more audits by RMS

[SydneyChris]

Guys.. Im sure the engineer providing me the input is acting in the best possible light.. whats apparent at this time is that is not entirely clear what is changing with the inspection process, and a number of holes in the ADR's or regs which leave some of the judgements open to interpretation.

[alffie]

From What I understand all that has changed is RMS is doing the inspections now. I cant see the problem here?
Maybe Treeve can explain more? I understood that you have always had to have paperwork for beam/torsion tests, "E" marked lights, brake and lane change tests,welding certificates,seat belt AS std stitched on the seat belts, seat compliance paperwork etc etc.. I think the only change in the last few years is IM240 emissions test?
Chris it would pay to give Treeve a call and talk to him about any questions you have before throwing your hands in the air. He has done many ICVs and been in the game for many years.

[alffie]

double post

[Treeve]

Just to add, I'm working with the RMS on this and many other problem areas (like emissions). The person who sent the email has told everyone of this new process without getting internal approval for this process, and is now getting a bit of a bashing.

I believe it will still be fairly problematic to deal with said person, but not something I haven't dealt with before. I've just compiled an email over the last 3 hours to neatly put him back in his box without any loss of face.

Treeve

[400TT]

Originally Posted by Treeve

Just to add, I'm working with the RMS on this and many other problem areas (like emissions)...

Treeve

Great to hear.

[SydneyChris]

thanks Gents...

What Im still looking forward to is a response from my engineer with all of the specifics so I can do just that.. work through it one step at a time.

Chris

[SydneyChris]

400TT.. thanks for the offer of assistance.. have sent a PM.

Chris