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Old 11-19-2014, 10:46 PM
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Still no update from Nick, I didn't think it was that hard to take a picture of a replacement ladder or even an email update or reply to my email from today to at least show some effort he was trying to make it right . . .

Here's a good shot of how NOT to build a Cobra, picture and Cobra by Acton Custom:



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Still no update from Nick, I didn't think it was that hard to take a picture of a replacement ladder or even an email update or reply to my email from today to at least show some effort he was trying to make it right . . .

Here's a good shot of how NOT to build a Cobra, picture and Cobra by Acton Custom:



SB
And to think that Nick didn't get it resolved in 72 hours? Geez!
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And 3 years Wasn't asking for it to be resolved but at least pictures of how he was proposing to fix it. He offered a new ladder that he told me was ready to go October 31st....
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Why don't you just lawyer up then? It's the American way!

Oh wait...you already cut up the original flawed frame and posted those pics. So too late for that option.

I will give you this though...you're tenacious and it would be nice to hear Nick's side of this tale. But the ostrich strategy rarely works these days given all the social media opportunities. Good luck and I hope you find resolution.
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And 3 years Wasn't asking for it to be resolved but at least pictures of how he was proposing to fix it. He offered a new ladder that he told me was ready to go October 31st....
one way to settle disagreements is to outlive the other person.

The court show, Judge Judy, is looking for disputes. they pay up to $750 for appearance and airfare/hotel to Los Angeles.
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It's always going to be a bit of a challenge putting out a fire by adding more gasoline. Or, as my mother wisely told me: "you catch more flies with honey than vinegar".

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Aren't forest fires put out with fires to contain them? I'm not trying to catch flies but to get my money back for defective product and services. Until I posted on consumer watch, Nick didn't offer to do anything and after that all I got was an offer with no action.

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There's at least 4 guys who've had the same type issues with Acton. SB isn't the only one. It's not some sort of disagreement between 2 guys. He's pulled the same crap on 3 others including me that we know of who have been taken. SB just seems to have been the worst,,, so far. You would think he would step forward and offer some sort of reason or explanation. Better yet, he would step up and refund all the money he has taken. I sent him nearly $7,000.00 June 3 2013. The problems started soon afterward. How long should I wait? 30 days? 6 months? 2 years? I finally gave up. I haven't added up the cost of all the parts that were either junk or that I never received. A close guess is it's over $1000.00. I can say one thing, ALL the parts that he manufactured either didn't fit or would have been built better by a first year high school shop class.
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ACademic,

Thanks! Not to worry my sister is an attorney out there on the east coast, many options are available.

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Then do it and quit whining here! Yes, I'm still watching the thread even though I said I wouldn't.
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Thanks Berni, but the posts will continue until this is resolved.
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What is it you want? Since you destroyed the frame, there really isn't anything for him to fix or replace. I've probably built around 100 Cobra frames, and what you did in your "build" thread is shocking.

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Kris,

I have heard you have built very nice Cobras over the years. Even with the frame out of picture there still a lot $$ here of parts and service that I cannot use. A refund is what I want and what I have asked for. The frame was no good so I can't see how its shocking to cut it out and save the incomplete birdcage?

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What is it you want? Since you destroyed the frame, there really isn't anything for him to fix or replace. I've probably built around 100 Cobra frames, and what you did in your "build" thread is shocking.
Once, in my younger years I was pissed about how something was built so I had my guys tear it down. Felt good at the time, but turned out to be a costly mistake. Just sayin'...
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If you destroyed the frame, what's he supposed to get back? As it is now, you destroyed it, it's yours forever. You say it was no good, then you should have pursued returning it. Now it's absolutely no good to anyone. I've seen lots of frames with problems, but I've always tried to find an elegant way to fix it.

I don't think there's any way for you to explain your story so that it's believable. If you bought a computer you thought was defective, you would never smash it open with a hammer to try and use parts inside to build a new one, then after you thoroughly destroyed it, start blasting Best Buy because they won't give you a refund.
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Have a look at what scratch builder has done to his chassis in his build thread.
It has long been known that csx4000 bodies are perhaps a little off , coupled with cobra restores refs plans being off. My question is , having seen the pictures why did you not visit the car before final delivery or question why the body is off.
Actually whyr risk a scratch build a all , it surely comes with so many head aches. I have had nothing but good experiences with nic as have 99 % of the members on this forum.
Red mtn your confused story ranges from 1000 to 7000 and is nothing but slander , you say you spent 7000 dollars and have nothing to show for it , then it's 1000, a very confusing story and you are just backing up your mate scratch
Scratch builder you stated you had a good conversation with nic , he's dealing with it , yet 72 hours later you are putting him down again .
I would hate to have customers like you.
Nic has just finished a great resto on csx 3035 and is currently building my aluminium Daytona coupe . His workmanship and his attention to detail has been top notch .
Having cut your chassis in 50 pieces you don't have a legal leg to stand on .
Nic has offered you a new ladder frame and I hope that will arrive in due course . The 5000 or so views you created over this matter should really be directed at your madness of chopping up a repairable chassis. Please see scratch builders build thread
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"Red mtn your confused story ranges from 1000 to 7000 and is nothing but slander , you say you spent 7000 dollars and have nothing to show for it , then it's 1000, a very confusing story and you are just backing up your mate scratch"

It would seem that your ability to read what actually was written is about as good as your opinion on something that has absolutely nothing to do with you. If you want to take shots at somebody , first make sure you know how to read. 18 posts and your some sort of authority on what?
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And of course I sold the body I had in Cali and bought the Shelby Body as Nick told me the scratch built frame he was building was made for it:

> ------------------------------
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 7:43 AM PDT Nick Acton wrote:
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>>Hi XXXX,
>>
>>Attached are some pics of the Shelby body hood, trunk and door panels the
>>scratchbuilt frame was made for. This is the same as the primered one you
>>saw on my car pulled off Shelby's car as correct as you can get in
>>fiberglass of course. This is a fiberglass Shelby body that was taken off
>>a car that was re-bodied in aluminum. It is currently at my friends in
>>Florida. You could buy that body and have it shipped here for $4,750.
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>>Please let me know if that is something you are interested in.
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>>Cheers,
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>>Acton Custom Enterprises, LLC
>>33 Wildwood Drive
>>Holderness, NH 03245
>>(603) 279-0241 Home
>>(603) 254-4105 Cell
>>Acton Custom Enterprises, Custom Metal for Cobras
>>www.csxinfo.net
>>"Like" us at www.facebook.com/actoncustom
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My Cobra project:

Aug 7, 2011
Quote received from Nick to supply plasma cut and bent bracket set

Aug 27, 2011
Payment sent for brackets

Oct 2,2011
Brackets shipped

3/26/2012 On site and decide to have Nick build me a frame, he has a frame mostly complete that I agree to purchase and he will finish

4/2/2012 CSX4000 body purchased, Nick assured me that was the body the frame was made for, Sold body in Cali I had that I think was from Arntz

4/27/2012 tko600 sent to Nick to make sure fit frame

5/26/2012 Chassis finished and painted

7/19/13 suspension control arms finished

9/15/13 on site at Nick’s. F panel inner fenders from other cars do not fit front, front control arms do not fit. Told Nick if something wrong with the front tower fix it even if that meant cutting it off and rebuild it. Assured frame same as other cars.

12/31/13 Front and rear control arms fitted, it’s a roller. Asked how the issues with the front was fixed and told it was welding distortion of the front control arms.

7/12/14- 7/16/2014 on site wrapping up to ship to Cali. Due to unexpected work to do on car had to leave with car on jack stands. Nick finished next few days.

7/22/2014 Get call from Nick “are you sitting down …”

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Note the body fits properly:

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