New JBL Cobra Daytona Coupe Street Version Build - Page 6

Clois Harlan · #1 (**permalink**) 02-29-2016, 01:07 PM

All this may not seem like much but finding the right hoses and fittings have been a real challenge. Had to spend $40 on a silicone 1" x 5/8" hose that goes from the rad fill tank to the engine. The tank was a custom made unit from Howe Radiator. Trying to locate the tank where it would be higher than the engine so it would gravity feed into the engine and then to the radiator was especially difficult for me. The tank has two additional outlets; one the goes to a 5/16" fitting at the top of the radiator on the driver side and one that goes to the bleed line in front of the thermostat. Of course there is also a 1/4" hose that goes to an overflow tank. There is just so much room in any engine compartment.

Clois Harlan · #2 (**permalink**) 03-01-2016, 05:33 AM

I worked on my dash a bit last night and determined my fuse box is going to have to be moved since two rows of fuses extend above the bottom of my dash and will become unreachable if completed as is. I do have several options so no big deal.

Starting to think about which seats I want to use and if I can talk Fran Hall into selling me a couple of his new Ford GT seats at a reasonable price I would like to use them. Otherwise I will have to go with the vintage bomber type seats from Speedway.

Ron61 · #3 (**permalink**) 03-01-2016, 05:53 AM

Clois,

You are really making good progress on the Coupe. That will be a real thrill to run when you get it finished and any bugs worked out.

Ron

Clois Harlan · #4 (**permalink**) 03-02-2016, 06:29 AM

The bugs are my biggest concern since I have gone with the Coyote Engine. I just hope I have done all the right things. A good friend of mine suggested I go with Mobil 5W50 instead of the Motorcraft oil because it has a much higher ZDDP addative and protects the moving parts better. O'Reilly has their Mobil One on sale right now for the same price as what I paid for the Motorcraft Synthetic Blend. Next time.

Ron61 · #5 (**permalink**) 03-02-2016, 07:00 AM

Clois,

Darren Freidman who owns our site has used a Coyote Engine in his Cobra that he races for quite a while and I don't think he has had any problems at all with it. I believe he replaced his 427SOC engine with the Coyote. He does mostly the type of racing where they have the cones and that means a lot of shifting and up and down in the RPMs. If you want to ask him about anything I am sure that he would be happy to share anything that he has found with you.

Ron

vector1 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-02-2016, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Clois Harlan

The bugs are my biggest concern since I have gone with the Coyote Engine. I just hope I have done all the right things. A good friend of mine suggested I go with Mobil 5W50 instead of the Motorcraft oil because it has a much higher ZDDP addative and protects the moving parts better. O'Reilly has their Mobil One on sale right now for the same price as what I paid for the Motorcraft Synthetic Blend. Next time.

I see multiple oil changes in your future.... not too long after startup maybe?

You might consider installing an hour meter. I put one on the black car and like it as I have an idea when I do things to it. Be better to keep a log book but my analitity only goes so far.

Morris · #7 (**permalink**) 03-02-2016, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Clois Harlan

The bugs are my biggest concern since I have gone with the Coyote Engine. I just hope I have done all the right things. A good friend of mine suggested I go with Mobil 5W50 instead of the Motorcraft oil because it has a much higher ZDDP addative and protects the moving parts better. O'Reilly has their Mobil One on sale right now for the same price as what I paid for the Motorcraft Synthetic Blend. Next time.

Clovis....

Mobil 1 Racing 0w50 oil......not 5w50......big difference.....

Clois Harlan · #8 (**permalink**) 03-02-2016, 12:02 PM

Thanks guys your info is great...

You know there are only so many things you get to do "first" and I guess it is normal to be a little unsure of yourself.

Bernica · #9 (**permalink**) 03-02-2016, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Morris

Clovis....

Mobil 1 Racing 0w50 oil......not 5w50......big difference.....

I thought the rule was to never break in an engine with synthetic oil?
Joe Gibbs has a specific break-in oil. I am sure there are others...

Clois Harlan · #10 (**permalink**) 03-02-2016, 07:31 PM

I agree about the breakin oil but that is what the Ford people told me when I bought the engine. Since it was a crate engine filled with oil when it was delivered I have wondered if it had already been run in.

Might be worth another call to the.Ford racing tech tomorrow.

Bernica · #11 (**permalink**) 03-02-2016, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Clois Harlan

I agree about the breakin oil but that is what the Ford people told me when I bought the engine. Since it was a crate engine filled with oil when it was delivered I have wondered if it had already been run in.

Might be worth another call to the.Ford racing tech tomorrow.

Now that's interesting. I thought most crate engines are delivered with a big tag on them saying "NO OIL!".

dallas_ · #12 (**permalink**) 03-03-2016, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Clois Harlan

Since it was a crate engine filled with oil when it was delivered I have wondered if it had already been run in.

Might be worth another call to the.Ford racing tech tomorrow.

My Ford Racing crate motor came filled with oil and had been run tested.

Morris · #13 (**permalink**) 03-03-2016, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bernica

I thought the rule was to never break in an engine with synthetic oil?
Joe Gibbs has a specific break-in oil. I am sure there are others...

Old wise tale........we've been using synthetic oil in new engines since the 70's.....and most new cars of today have synthetic oils from the beginning...especially the Hi-Performance vehicles....

Bernica · #14 (**permalink**) 03-03-2016, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Morris

Old wise tale........we've been using synthetic oil in new engines since the 70's.....and most new cars of today have synthetic oils from the beginning...especially the Hi-Performance vehicles....

Not saying you are wrong, but I have seen Hi-Perf engines that wiped the cam within the first couple of hours and the reason in both cases was using the wrong break-in oil (synthetic). I am sure that if Ford ran it, they used what was appropriate for run-in.

Clois Harlan · #15 (**permalink**) 03-03-2016, 04:59 AM

Mine was fully crated with oil filter in place and all the electronics and accessories in a box within the serran wrapped crate and delivered by RL trucking to my door. I bought my crate engine direct from Ford Racing. I still have my 2 year 24 month warrenty because it doesn't start the clock until it is fired for the first time.

I agree I thought all the engines were delivered dry too.

Clois Harlan · #16 (**permalink**) 03-04-2016, 07:35 AM

Dean Lampe and I both had 427 engines built by a guy who had a great reputation with FE engines. They were both run in by him we thought however the truth was his young "interns actually built our engines and ran them in with standard Valvoline 2 w 50. We took deliver the night before we were to go to a race (basically just enough time to get them installed). Both engines granaded within 10 to 15 minutes on the track. We know about proper breakin oil and procedures. We were much younger then and took people at their word...not so much anymore.

The Coyote is a whole new adventure for me and I am learning more each day.

Clois Harlan · #17 (**permalink**) 03-07-2016, 05:27 AM

Spent a good part of the weekend working on taxes but I was able to spend a little time on the coupe on Sunday afternoon. I got most of the gauges wired into the dash and I installed a puke tank in the front. Engine bay is getting very full. None of this stuff is very exciting when it comes to the build but it must be done (and sometimes you do them 3 or 4 times until you get everything where you want it). The permenant location of the fuse box has been a bit of a challenge given the configuration of the hump over the transmission and the need to position the other Ford Coyote engine management fuse box.

Clois Harlan · #18 (**permalink**) 03-15-2016, 08:48 AM

Sometimes you just have to wait on parts and then when they arrive wrong you send them back and wait some more. I have been building these Cobras or t Coupes for almost 16 years and these things just happen. As I said earlier one step forward and two steps back....at least for now. Received two fender couplings for the conversion from 3/16" to AN3 which were both bad. Really inexpensive parts but they were machined wrong and leaked like a sieve. Replaced brake lines and AN fittings before I took a good look at the machining of the adaptors. Stuff happens.

Clois Harlan · #19 (**permalink**) 03-16-2016, 11:42 AM

John,

Dean Lampe and Mike Burnhardt have been in this week and I have been side tracked by ocassional beer drinking in the evenings. We are planning a tribute track day for Jay Nordstrom at one of the North Texas tracks. I will let everyone know once we get all of our ducks in a row if it is going to work out.

dallas_ · #20 (**permalink**) 03-25-2016, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Clois Harlan

Dean Lampe and Mike Burnhardt have been in this week and I have been side tracked by ocassional beer drinking in the evenings. We are planning a tribute track day for Jay Nordstrom at one of the North Texas tracks. I will let everyone know once we get all of our ducks in a row if it is going to work out.

That sounds good. I'm definitely in for that.

See you next week in San Marcos?