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07-07-2006, 01:21 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: pottstown,
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Cobra Make, Engine: era 289 FIA #2112
Posts: 326
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webers or 4 barrel carb for 289 FIA
While Chassis 2112 makes its way towards the painters I am getting my motor ready.
I am currently building a 289 for my ERA FIA. I was hoping to get some comparison info from some of you who have built with either a 4 barrel carb or webers than changed the setup to the other.
My question is; which gets you more bang for the buck? I am leaning towards the webers, however the initial outlay of cash for the weber setup has me wondering if it is worth it.
The small block in question was pulled from my 67 mustang, it is being bored over .030", 10.5:1 compression, AFR 165cc heads, and comp cams 281HR grind cam shaft.
(the mustang got a 302, with a mild cam and edelbrock heads)
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07-07-2006, 01:45 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Shreveport,
LA
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4083, NOS 427 SOHC, serial number 589. Dyno'd in 1967 at 629HP with single 4v 560 Holley. Now with 4 Webers.
Posts: 295
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Webers are the way to go, just happen to have the setup you need for your small block, brand new, complete, polished and chromed:
Alan Sorkey
Shreveport, LA
asorkey@hotmail.com
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07-07-2006, 03:11 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 1964 289->Webers
Posts: 3,689
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If you are willing to spend the dough it is totally worth it. I budgeted for a carburetor, setup & built it that way. I got the carb, a 600 holley Double Pumper, set & drove it around a bit then ended up with some extra cash in hand & decided to throw webers on. I have the webers tuned in about 99% now & they pull noticably harder. I can get her rolling in 2nd, nail it & the tires break loose. Wouldn't do that with a carb on my slightly built 289. If you have any questions you can email me & I will be happy to answer them to the best of my ability. These are my two setups
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07-07-2006, 03:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Uniontown,
Oh
Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 445 FE stroker
Posts: 320
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My first thought is hey it an ERA whatever you do will be great!!!
My second is a warning.... Full Throttle Al is the devil, beware any one that can put up a picture of something you want that quickly and is that beautiful will problably only want your soul for payment, he just happens to have an extra one for sale...yea right  Man I don't have a car yet and I want to buy them. |
07-07-2006, 04:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: pottstown,
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Cobra Make, Engine: era 289 FIA #2112
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Razor you are so right, that is an awesome looking setup! and *13* you have a PM with a few questions.
Marc-Alan
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07-07-2006, 04:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Atlanta,
GA
Cobra Make, Engine: CAV GT40 with 331 KC
Posts: 2,187
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Bang for the buck? A 4 barrell.
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07-07-2006, 05:48 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Hyannis,
MA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA #2039
Posts: 255
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Weber vs 4BBL
I started with a 4BBL and went to webers (for about $3500.) and never looked back. They run great and look great. See my photos for a "before and after" for ERA 2039.
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07-07-2006, 06:19 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: pottstown,
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Cobra Make, Engine: era 289 FIA #2112
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ack fia; where did you buy the weber set up?
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07-07-2006, 07:43 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Greenville,sc,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 (KMP 266); CAV GT40
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Pat is correct. If bang for the buck is what you are after,then the Holley is the way to go. For 3500 bucks you could have a killer set of ported aluminum heads and a stroker kit for your engine;there would be no comparison in performance for the buck. However, the look of the webers cannot be duplicated and I do love it. So it really is not a performance question,it is a cosmetic question.
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07-07-2006, 07:52 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA-722, Pure Street in BRG
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I have to put in my 2 cents here.
A single 4 bbl will be the best bang for the buck indeed. Although I'd never use an Offenhauser 360 it’s just not a good manifold for much of anything over 5000 RPM. If you want get an Edelbrock F4B for about $100.00 and it's the exact same manifold as the early dual plane hi-rise cobra intake. That and a tuned 750 cfm with vacuum secondary with an adjustable vacuum port will get you more then you ever realized. Provided you have healthy cam and heads that breath.
This set up will pull more for less any day. Don’t get me wrong. No one, I mean no one likes the webers more than me. It’s just tuning them can be a bit of a pain in the rear. Nothing looks better though.
Last edited by FrankJohnson69; 07-07-2006 at 07:58 PM..
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07-07-2006, 08:51 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 1964 289->Webers
Posts: 3,689
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Upening the hood & listening to them breath is what it's all about 
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07-18-2006, 09:41 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine:
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For those who may need a tunning video on 48 IDA down drafts. I still have some left. Go to GT40 forum and read the Reviews. Goes over breakdown rebuild instalation and balancing step by step.
Regards Oliver
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07-18-2006, 12:03 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: columbus,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 roadster with 351C-4B
Posts: 5,129
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Bang for the buck is a properly sized and tuned 4 barrell setup. With that said, I would still love to have a set of Webers!
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07-18-2006, 12:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: miami,
FL
Cobra Make, Engine: E-M Cobra Ford FE 427 w/ Webers 48 IDA
Posts: 1,380
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Oliver,
Can you give me that link so I could order the video?
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07-18-2006, 12:47 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: miami,
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M Cobra Ford FE 427 w/ Webers 48 IDA
Posts: 1,380
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Oliver,
I would like to order the video but I do not see where to place my order?
Can you please help?
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