What would you do?

[trs900]

Is it intermission or is the movie over good thing this wasn't about Backdraft or my panties would be getting wadded up..

[1bad66]

What the he** are you talking about?????

[JWheaton]

Originally Posted by 1bad66

What the he** are you talking about?????

http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73577

Who gave you the drawing?

[pavulon]

OK...it's gone more than a fair bit wonky now. Please stop attacking each other, ERA and myself. I'll post with details (as best I can) if anything changes. Until then, please, let the issue sit.
Thank you,
Scott

[HI Cobra]

Popcorn break.

[xlr8or]

Jose,
The internet access for soldiers/civilian workers in Iraq is provided by a company back here in the US. They are the ones that have the filtering device. The military didn't set the policy of what is allowed and what is not other than some very basic stuff. I can tell you this as fact because I was the one that installed it for them.

[jose velez]

Originally Posted by xlr8or

Jose,
The internet access for soldiers/civilian workers in Iraq is provided by a company back here in the US. They are the ones that have the filtering device. The military didn't set the policy of what is allowed and what is not other than some very basic stuff. I can tell you this as fact because I was the one that installed it for them.

It is not an issue of who cut the access or from where. Read his claim of power originally. Also it is clear that the use is unauthorized. Also is not the use of unauthorized Internet is the adjectives he used against a person that he does not know and the circumstances.

[xlr8or]

I understand where you are coming from on the comments about Peter/ERA. I was commenting on "It is clearly not an authorize use of the US Army Internet" comment you made
Browsing the web is a service provided to them and is not unauthorized in most cases. It's not the military comm systems or other combat systems being used. They have PC's available at the bases for people to use for internet access and as a means to communicate with family/friends at home as well as browse the web.

[jose velez]

Originally Posted by xlr8or

I understand where you are coming from on the comments about Peter/ERA. I was commenting on "It is clearly not an authorize use of the US Army Internet" comment you made
Browsing the web is a service provided to them and is not unauthorized in most cases. It's not the military comm systems or other combat systems being used. They have PC's available at the bases for people to use for internet access and as a means to communicate with family/friends at home as well as browse the web.

You have two type of access one should be fairly open to communicate with family and friends around the base and the other is official. Those are restricted to "reduce" the fooling around and avoid picking up spyware/adware and other nice stuff like in any industry. I do not think he was using the family and friends because it was restricting to some "harmless" sites. The equipment that he was using is his work computer and this is the unauthorized use.

[xlr8or]

You are making many assumptions.

[jose velez]

Originally Posted by xlr8or

You are making many assumptions.

That is interesting. It is the second time in two days that someone accuse me in this site of too many ASS-umptions. The first one was wrong. Which assumptions?

1. He posted on this website that he could reach only this site (club cobra) and FFR.

2. You have posted that they have computers to communicate with friend and family and general internet use. Are this computers restricted not to enter Hurricane Motorsport site and other Cobra's sites like he accepted. Public computers are restricted to pornosites etc to avoid embarrassment etc. But restrict a kit car manufacturer from general internet use and recreation 7000+ miles away from home. I have restricted Porsche, Motorcycle, Yahoo, Hotmail and other sites in business equipment

3. Also he never defended that he was not using his work at computer.

I always like to learn new things. Which is my wrong assumption?

[HI Cobra]

Hey - at least the argument is taking a break from ERA - more popcorn.

[jose velez]

Originally Posted by HI Cobra

Hey - at least the argument is taking a break from ERA - more popcorn.

great, butter

[xlr8or]

Originally Posted by jose velez

That is interesting. It is the second time in two days that someone accuse me in this site of too many ASS-umptions. The first one was wrong. Which assumptions?

1. He posted on this website that he could reach only this site (club cobra) and FFR.

2. You have posted that they have computers to communicate with friend and family and general internet use. Are this computers restricted not to enter Hurricane Motorsport site and other Cobra's sites like he accepted. Public computers are restricted to pornosites etc to avoid embarrassment etc. But restrict a kit car manufacturer from general internet use and recreation 7000+ miles away from home. I have restricted Porsche, Motorcycle, Yahoo, Hotmail and other sites in business equipment

3. Also he never defended that he was not using his work at computer.

I always like to learn new things. Which is my wrong assumption?

They can decide to block whatever they want. Just because some sites are restricted doesn't mean he's on a military system. The filtering may be setup to block any number of ways. If he manages access on the ground over there he has to have systems on that public network to manage it.

Enough debate on this.

[dlang14]

Scott,

I'm sorry that I didnt see this thread earlier. I only read the first couple of pages of posts and your last post or two, so if I missed something I apologize. I think ERA is a great company with a great product. That said, I had the exact same experience that you are currently having several years ago. I sent my deposit, shortly after my wife got pregnant so I cancelled my order, rather than spending months in the garage.

Unfortunately Peter is the only guy who can talk money, or at least was when I was struggling with this. Everyone else there is extremely helpful, but as soon as its a deposit refund its peter's voicemail which seems like a blackhole.

I did eventually get my deposit back. It was very frustrating process. I don't remember exactly how long, I would guess 8 months or so from cancel to full refund. My frustration wasnt how long it took, it was that no one would call me back, or give me a date when I could expect something.

Feel free to send me a private message if you would like to discuss further offline. Best of luck, hang in there.


Daryl

[Excaliber]

How 'bout them FFR's?

[mr bruce]

try this: http://videosift.com/video/Old-Lady-Punch

[ROUSHAC]

[jose velez]

Originally Posted by ROUSHAC

great sign

[jaxssnake]

Dave,
These last ten pages is why I never post.