Brad Penn Oil and the ZDDP Debate

[madmaxx]

Any disadvantages to bradd penn oil. Seams like a win win, price is about $5.25 per quart, has the zinc and phosphourous additives. Why isn't everyone using it?

[FWB]

i think the lack of national advertising is the main reason. there is a void in advertising funds provided to the dealers also. i have to foot the bill myself for any ads i run on behalf of my company. compared to the other oils it really is good oil, and priced right too. the gibbs racing oil is very pricey and i can't imaging a advantage over the brad penn.

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by FWB

i think the lack of national advertising is the main reason. there is a void in advertising funds provided to the dealers also. i have to foot the bill myself for any ads i run on behalf of my company. compared to the other oils it really is good oil, and priced right too. the gibbs racing oil is very pricey and i can't imaging a advantage over the brad penn.

When will your site have the shopping cart set up?

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by dcdoug

When will your site have the shopping cart set up?

... and when you do make sure you can undercut these guys: http://theoilwarehouse.com/

[scootter]

I called a local dealer here. It runs $70 per case!! I can almost buy it from the oil warehouse with $27 for shipping and be the same. Anyone here in the SF bay area get it cheaper somewhere?? Hell, I pay more then $40 per case for the Valvoline 20W50. I have done the ZDDP additive, but all that stuff can be a pain. Would rather buy 1 oil, then having to put additives!!
Scott

[4pipes]

I think Goodies usually stocks it. Hot rod service co. In Campbell is listed on the Brad Penn site. I use the 20w50.

[FWB]

Originally Posted by patrickt

... and when you do make sure you can undercut these guys: http://theoilwarehouse.com/

i have discussed these guys prices with the refinery. they do not deal with them, so where they are getting the oil? who knows. there was just a price increase on oil, so maybe you will see these guys prices rise after their stock is depleted.
in the meantime, anyone east coast will save over the oil wharehouse in the shipping. they ship from arizona. so compare to summit or the other dealers on the east coast and i am competitive. as my volume increases so woll my buying power. web site will be up and active in a couple weeks. can still contact me here... http://www.origincorp.net/
just can't process credit cards till web site is up. checks or money orders are ok. been in business for many years so i don't thnk i would want to ruin my business reputation over not delivering a case of oil.

Fred

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

Why isn't everyone using it?

There are many good engine oils on the market with high ZDDP levels including oils from Redline and Joe Gibbs Racing. Brad Penn is one of many good oils to run.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by madmaxx

Why isn't everyone using it?

The oil companies don't make it easy to figure out what's in their oils. The "information" on the internet is completely wrong as often as it is right. People rely on an oil that they grew up with that now is owned by a different refinery, made up of completely different additives, and bears no resemblance to what it was even just a few years ago. Add to that the fact that a lot of people don't put a lot of effort in to thinking. The final wild card is that some of the testing laboratories give varying results on the identical sample of oil. Fortunately, unless you have a solid flat tappet cam, the need for ZDDP is really not that great.

EDIT -- BUT, unless I had a catalytic converter on my car, I would rather have an abundance of ZDDP even with a mild hydraulic cam and a 250 horsepower build.

[FUNFER2]

I had a 428 FE with a solid flat tappet. With my 527 side oiler and not needing,.... the added ZDDP because of my mechanical roller, is his oil and additives, any better than most other company's ?

I believe,... this quote from his website, is the first time I've seen any comments about using the ZDDP oil additive for roller cams.

"In addition to our unique base oil cut, increased concentration of “zinc” (zinc dialkyldithiophosphate a.k.a. ZDDP) provides outstanding anti-wear/anti-scuffing protection for engines employing either ‘flat tappet’ or roller cams. BRAD PENN® Penn Grade 1® High Performance Oils have been evaluated by a number of premiere camshaft manufacturers with tremendous success. Many are now recommending our Penn Grade 1® High Performance Oils to provide outstanding protection for their ‘flat tappet’ or roller cams".

[patrickt]

I didn't think ZDDP was that big of a deal with a roller, but who knows. What might be important though for Cobras that sit a while in between starts is the "cling" factor.

[CobraEd]

Just buy your mostest favorite motor oil, and then add this:

http://www.eastwood.com/zddp-plus-oi...e-4-fl-oz.html

. . . . and you will have the best of all worlds.


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[FUNFER2]

I've kind of had the same thought, as with synthetic oil. From what I've heard elsewhere, if your car sits for more than apx,..... a week, the synthetic is so slippery, it falls off the valve train, bearings ect. ect.....

I do not know, how true this information is, especially just a week, but doesn't it make a little sense, let's say a few weeks ?