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Old 05-27-2012, 01:19 PM
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Default FE 427SO or Roush 427SR?

Let me first start off by saying, I'm a Newbie to this community and I want to thank all of you for your helpful and informative threads about my ultimate dream car the 1965 Shelby Cobra 427.

After researching my dream car for over 7 months, I've decided that I'm going to order and purchase a Superformance MKIII. My big dilemma is, what is the best engine to go with. My desired use for my car is to drive it everyday and on long weekend cruise trips. I plan to have some very limited track use but mostly street driving. I want to have the title registered as 1965 vintage car so I don't have to worry about smog tests etc. All that said, please post your thoughts on the Roush 427SR VS. the Ford FE 427SO. What's the best choice for me? And, can I get both engine types registered in NC as a 1965 vintage car?

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Search here for Roush Windsors as there's ton of negative experiences.
An SO is ALWAYS the smarter choice.
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The Roush 427SR in my SPF GT40 has been faultless after 11,000 miles. 3 other SPF owners in our local club have the same engine in Cobras with no complaints. That being said there have been complaints about Roush on this forum. I'm not familiar with FE's, but the 427SR is very streetable with plenty of torque for occasional track days.
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FE all the way!

I drive a small block but my next Cobra would have a big block. I have driven a couple of Cobras with big blocks. Very streetable, very easy to drive, any gear is passing gear.

And the sound!!! Big Block noise! When Lainhart pulls into a car show with his 427 s.o. stroker, everyone stops and watches till he get parked.

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You are asking the question to a group of mostly biased enthusiasts! I have a Roush 427 SRTW and couldn't be happier. I did buy it used however. If I were buying something new, I might be tempted to get the Coyote 5 liter in a red SPF. Yep, that's my vote and I don't even have a red Cobra!
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Thanks for your input! I think if I don't end up getting a an BB FE 427SO, I will heavily consider thr Roush 427SRTW.

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Thanks, I really do want to test drive a BB 427SO. What a great engine!

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Thanks for your input! I can't wait to test drive an BB FE 427SO. I appreciate the history of Carroll Shelby's original so much that I just have to try it. I'm looking forward to heading to Olthoff Racing and check them out. Oh yeah, you are so right nothing sounds like a BB FE 427SO... It's Unreal!!!

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Congrats, and best of luck with your project...

FWIW:
IF I was consigning an SPF, I'd opt for a 408Windsor, something in the 500/500 mark is bang on... but it wouldn't be from Roush.

If I was looking at a daily driver scenario like you explained, I'd opt for Coyote or if you could stomach GM - LS series engine (LS7 most likely).

Reality is... they are not the best daily drivers, despite you wishing, or thinking, or even wanting it to be.


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I have 6000 miles on my Roush 427R. Runs like a swiss watch. I was also torn between a BB and Roush. I drove 2 SPFs back to back. One had a Shelby all aluminum 427BB, the other had a 427R Roush SB. The heat from the BB was Huge compared to the SB. I live in Florida so heat was an issue. If you can, drive both and see how they compare in the North Carolina heat.
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Thanks for you comments. I've heard a lot about the heat from BB 427's. I've often wondered in you can special order extra insulation between you and the cockpit firewall when you speak with SPF to cut down on the heat in the cockpit? At any rate, I am going to test drive both BB & SB SPF Cobra's to check it out. I do know this, I plan to dive my SPF MKIII everyday when I get it so I don't want to over heated in the cockpit. I've dreamed of a car like this my whole life so I want to enjoy every ride! Thanks again...

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I second the Roush!

Mine has 12,000 miles. Pulls like a freight train and can be as docile as a 302, unless you push down on the gas pedal. And heat is not a concern.

Plus, to the masses, when you raise the hood, its an engine most everyone has heard of.
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I second the Roush!

Mine has 12,000 miles. Pulls like a freight train and can be as docile as a 302, unless you push down on the gas pedal. And heat is not a concern.

Plus, to the masses, when you raise the hood, its an engine most everyone has heard of.
They only know its a Roush if you use the valve covers, those are some expensive valve covers.
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Thanks Jim! I've seen online and heard so many good things about the Roush 427SRTW from SPF owners. I love the SPF product and hopefully sometime this year I'll finally be able to take my test at Olthoff Racing here in NC. When I get my MKIII I plan to drive it all the way to CA and then drive up and down PCH like I used to in the 90's. Man, I really miss those West Coast drives. Thanks again for your input...


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Goopie 18, how did the sound vary in your comparison of the BB vs SB?
I know this gentleman would like to know as would I !
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They only know its a Roush if you use the valve covers, those are some expensive valve covers.
Got a roush air cleaner too.
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Got a roush air cleaner too.
That makes it worth it then.
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Chris. I must admit I asked Goopie 18 to give his opinion on sound to see his take side by side. Actually I have a 427 W in my car. Had it for over 5 years and zero issues. It isn't Roush but rather CHP here in Calif. it does have 550 hp and same torque. When I pull up to car folks, they can't tell the diff. It obviously has a huge cam and the like but point is...... Sounds awesome! I also went Mass Flo injection. So much ease in starts in any temp and just drives smooth, plus the throttle body air cleaner gives the look a more orig theme vs other injection version.
If driving daily, this idea is worth considering. Not sure I would hit the real high hp as it would be a tad more relaxing w say, 400ish. But of course, driving a C.......A isn't really supposed to be relaxing! Takes awareness 100%,
Oh, yeah, I have 28,800 miles on it, so I know!
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Thanks for your input! I can't wait to test drive an BB FE 427SO. I appreciate the history of Carroll Shelby's original so much that I just have to try it. I'm looking forward to heading to Olthoff Racing and check them out. Oh yeah, you are so right nothing sounds like a BB FE 427SO... It's Unreal!!!

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Olthoff will likely try to steer you toward a small block.

There is a Cobra get-together in Raleigh this coming Saturday--you would be able to see/hear cars with FEs and small blocks.

Engine choice comes down to personal preference and budget. If you can swing it, an aluminum FE can give you the best of both worlds.

Holman & Moody is not far from you--they could build a mean FE for your SPF.
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Thanks for you comments. I've heard a lot about the heat from BB 427's. I've often wondered in you can special order extra insulation between you and the cockpit firewall when you speak with SPF to cut down on the heat in the cockpit?
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Olthoff can add extra insulation--during the install--to help mitigate cockpit heat.

With a name like "Cobra Braggin," one could posit that you'd be inclined to go with an FE big block.
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