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Old 10-24-2010, 12:37 PM
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sounds like a space frame car(not a MONO), interior a little cheesy, but overall not a bad price for a Gt with a decent engine with Webers, transaxle is not ideal.

as far as the RCR goes, that one has some really nice features but the price would probably be a record high for an RCR

Just thought I would inject my build cost here, because of this post.

M RCR was built by Race-Car_Replicas at a total cost to me of..................


Yes $108,294.58 and I have all documents to support this.
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Old 10-25-2010, 09:11 AM
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You do realize that just because you spent a fortune having someone build it for you does in no way mean it is worth anywhere near that, right?
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Old 10-25-2010, 10:06 AM
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Current eBay listing for Allen's car:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...FP%3AUS%3A1123

If I had some loose change lying around the house, I'd buy it.
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You do realize that just because you spent a fortune having someone build it for you does in no way mean it is worth anywhere near that, right?
That's a Bullcrap statement!!!

If that were true it would invalidate the price of every production car sold.

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Old 10-25-2010, 12:15 PM
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That's a Bullcrap statement!!!

If that were true it would invalidate the price of every production car sold.

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I think what Pat is trying to say, and this is an extreme example, is that even though you spend $100,000 on "restifying" a Ford Pinto, it's highly unlikely that the owner will ever get anywhere near his money out of his beautifully "restified" Pinto with the 527ci Cammer.
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:15 PM
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Unfortunately, Pat "jumped on the truth." It always makes people uncomfortable when someone does that....
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:26 PM
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cdnus, "jumped on the truth", but I don't think Allen was trying to say his car's market value is $108K, especially when it's listed on eBay for $99K.

I remember Dean Lampe asking $95,000 or $99,000 for his RCR when it was listed on CobraCountry, but he sold his RCR 40 for an early (P2122?) red SPF GT40 trade plus cash, so no one knows what the final sales price was there.

Anyway, the facts are that Allen's RCR is beautiful and his RCR is a very high-end RCR build.
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Sorry, doesn't wash.
Poor choice of words on Pat's part. That car is well worth the asking price, it is a piece of car art. It is not a resto-pinto.

Again JMO.

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Old 10-25-2010, 04:17 PM
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Sorry, doesn't wash.
Poor choice of words on Pat's part. That car is well worth the asking price, it is a piece of car art. It is not a resto-pinto.

Again JMO.

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"Worth", "market value", po-TATO, po-TAHTO. But, we're all entitled to our opinions. Pat and Allen are good "peeps."

As you can see, I put a laughing emoticon with my reference to a Pinto with a 527ci Cammer. I was only kidding with the analogy.
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:41 PM
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Pat is exactly correct actually. The build price of a car like a GT40 has little to do with the value on the open market. This is not to imply that it is not a wonderful car, and perhaps someone will buy it at the asking price, but it is a buyers market now. The build cost on my SPF P2103 MK11 was 123K. I paid 90 for it and sold it for 85 a year ago.
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:56 PM
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See, Rod? Smart people are in agreement that Pat was right.
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That's a Bullcrap statement!!!

If that were true it would invalidate the price of every production car sold.

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Bullcrap?

LOL.

You are getting your apples mixed up with your oranges......this is not a production car.

If it was a production car I would not have made that statement.
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Craig,

You can take it to the bank if Pat says so.

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Old 10-26-2010, 02:24 PM
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Free plug for Allen. Price is now $96,680 obo.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...SS%3AUS%3A1123
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I am sure you guys know I expected to take a loss and I don't feel I am being unrealistic on my price. Not only are we asking 12k less for a new car built and finished by the manufacturer (RCR) this year, but I am also taking an additional hit paying for it to be sold for me.

Thanks for the plug, I can assure you the new owner who ever it will be will not be disappointed.
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