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08-27-2017, 10:24 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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We used to start cars with no transmission in them. I don't see a problem with that. The two motor mounts and, usually, a bottle jack under the back of the engine was all we ever used. Of course, be extremely careful when you start peeking at the moving parts.  Regarding starter motor measurements, the only thing I have is the Ford Shop Manuals that show correct, and incorrect, teeth markings between the starter motor and the flywheel. Unfortunately (or, fortunately, depending on how you look at it), I have never had a starter motor alignment issue on any car, ever. Datsuns to Fords, they've always just lined right up and I never had a problem.  Now, when it comes to aligning your bellhousing, I think you have to treat it as though it is completely unknown. Install it as if it were a permanent, and then put your dial gauge on it and see what the run out is. Usually, when it's done properly once, you don't have to screw with it again. But in your case, you have to double check everything with a jaundice eye as to how it was originally set up. (medical joke there, get it?)
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08-27-2017, 12:57 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham/Southern 427 SO finally on the road
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thanx for the info. So, before I start checking the alignment of the bell housing, i should run a set of liver function tests? thanx steve
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08-27-2017, 01:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve meltzer
So, before I start checking the alignment of the bell housing, i should run a set of liver function tests?
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... yep, with onions too please. 
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08-27-2017, 01:08 PM
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hmmm. won't fight you for that. where were you when my mother tried to force feed us that high cholesterol poison? s
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08-31-2017, 08:53 AM
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Alright, you've got a nice long weekend coming up, I think you should take tomorrow off and stretch it out to a four-day weekend.  That way you should be able to get the car back together, cranking properly, starting properly, and maybe even running properly. And that means not leaving broken teeth in the bell housing or having gas vapors pluming out on to your hot primaries . 
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08-31-2017, 10:48 AM
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I'm really ready, but I'm trying to make sure the starter teeth are engaging the flywheel properly, then we'll stab the tranny. thanx for the support and encouragement. s
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08-31-2017, 06:05 PM
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Steve,
You should leave the heavy lead off at the starter, (insulate the lug for safety), so you can engage the pinion with the flywheel to check pinion to ring gear engagement in both planes.
With only the small solenoid wire fitted, the ignition switch can be held in the crank position to ensure the pinion is correct.
Wrong depth in either plane is the cause for ring gear or pinion damage.
Gary
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