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frame and body only
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frame and body with all other Kirkham parts
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01-29-2005, 10:10 PM
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Super Moderator
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,448
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Thank you gentlemen.
BJ...only when I'm sober. 
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06-04-2005, 07:22 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cincinnati,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR 428PI Toploader
Posts: 58
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I'm in for #2 if the price goes 29.9
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06-04-2005, 10:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New Braunfels,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 S/C, 427s/o
Posts: 45
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David,
I like the completed option...no time. Maybe when I retire sometime before U2 does.
CSX 4027...Your dad is a hero... thank him for his service from all of us.
GO AIR FORCE!
Eagles
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07-02-2005, 02:02 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: East Greenbush,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Mark III, Carbed Explorer 302
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David,
Love your cars! A pay as you go option would be great for us "working guys". Make mine a Hybrid 289
Thanks, Pat
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Tagged and road ready in NYSas of 6-5-09 Life is GREAT!
My build log http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/cobra-build-logs/80663-my-cobra-build.html
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07-06-2005, 12:16 PM
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Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Galena,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 S/C 428 cid 430 hp
Posts: 281
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Hey Guys,
Whatever ever happened here? Did David develop a package ?
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08-07-2005, 07:24 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Cincinnati,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR 428PI Toploader
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bump
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08-08-2005, 10:19 AM
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Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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Gents,
We are working on a package, but we are running into problems. We have seen some of our cars that were put together by other people with some workmanship that was not done according to our standards.
As you may realize, our car still has our name on it when it is finished and if there is poor work done on the car during assembly, it reflects poorly on our company--which, of course, we don't want. I suspect much of that could be corrected with a really detailed manual, but that takes a considerable amount of time and energy to create. We are still working on it regardless.
We remain open to any suggestions.
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08-08-2005, 10:41 AM
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David:
I am currently shopping for my first Cobra. I am looking for a totally built car, ready to drive away. Will want it to be a head turner, show quality, and sub 4 sec 0-60. So the dealers that can do that I will be talking with when ready to buy.
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08-08-2005, 10:49 AM
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Location: Huntington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
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The answer is simple - Marketing 101 -
Give it another name ie the Kirkham Muntz or Caravelle or Quantum IV. That way all can judge the car as a "kit" and know it was not assembled by you. 
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08-08-2005, 11:04 AM
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55's got a good idea. However, rather than call it one of "mad-man Muntz's" creations, how about another serial number sequence, prefix or suffix (K: could mean Kit or Kirkham to the uninitiated)) as you might prefer?
Otherwise, only a silly person would wish to shovel wet and sticky against the tide of at least occasional so-so assembly, even with tab A and Slot A instructions.
Make it clearly visible.
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08-08-2005, 11:13 AM
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Location: Orange County,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF Brock Coupe #88, Keith Craft 427w
Posts: 707
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It's a crying shame what people like Jamo do to those fine machines.... 
Doug
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08-08-2005, 12:45 PM
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David,
Can you be more specific in what areas you seeing a problem in? Unless it's in the aluminum body it may be common to multiple mfr's and it's probable that many here have been through that process and can help offer suggestions on how to idiot proof it or relate what knowledge was missing to do it right the first time.
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08-08-2005, 11:00 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Hey Doug, bite my... 
All I do is drive the doggone thing...which is why nuthin's ever broke or fallen off.
I just don't know David...it's a slippery slope.
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08-09-2005, 01:16 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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xlr8or,
We have run into about any problem you could imagine. Usually it is just plain sloppy work.
We have seen someone attempt to weld bolts together to make them longer!!! 
Can you belive it?
We have seen hoses hanging under the frame, alignments so far off you could see it. Cobbled together brackets are more common that I wish. Mostly it has to do with monkeys using monkey wrenches and not caring much about how anything goes together.
Of course, we have seen some exceptional work done by some of our customers, (Morris Clement, and Tom Decker immediately come to mind--not that there aren't others), who have even helped us to improve what we do here.
Unfortunately, there seems to be much more crappy work than nice work by and large.
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08-09-2005, 02:22 PM
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So don't sell anything but rollers, David.
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09-25-2006, 09:12 AM
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So don't sell anything but rollers, David.
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Year later.........same answer.
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08-09-2005, 05:03 PM
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David if that is the case then you would need to provide every single nut, bolt, washer etc down to the last detail with a complete set of textual and visual instructions. Even then you can't idiot proof everything because idiots are far too clever at finding ways to screw things up.
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08-09-2005, 05:36 PM
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video or manual
I think a video or manual of the "correct" parts and accurate information on building a Cobra so that it correctly replicates an original car would sell like crazy if done by the right person or people. Although the forum members have bee very helpfull with all of my build questions sometimes you can't help but feel like you are being a pain in the bvtt . I would easily pay $100.00 for such information and I'm sure others would too. Definatly would be nice if made by one of these three Mike McClusky, SAI or the Kirkhams.
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08-09-2005, 05:48 PM
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A better assembly manual isn't going to help those that are willing to take short cuts. I think in many cases they KNOW what should be done, but thats too hard to do.
After all it's just easier to weld two bolts together, than it is to get in the car and drive ALL the way to the hardware store, AGAIN. I mean I JUST came back from there, screw it,,, glue it, weld it. Yeah, thats the ticket! |
08-09-2005, 06:09 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: A&C 460
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David,
Your Business growth mirrors mine in many ways. With out causing trouble I'll just say we went back to what got us our reputation in the first place and put more effort into satifying these people that understand quality and are willing to pay for it. I sleep much better now. Do I make as much money? Probably not, but quality of life is worth more than gold!
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