Its all dead

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What is an "appropriate group"? And are you in that group?

Well that IS a pertinent question, still to be resolved. At this point it seems the UAW cadillac plans won't be taxed. I for one certainly think THAT group should be! I don't know where I personally would stand on the tax issue, but I'm certainly willing to pay more if it will help cover folks like bduetsch's son.

Addressing the pre-existing aspect of health care is a needed reform.

The lady on welfare with eight kids? Virtually no impact on her or anybody else. She is already covered under the various welfare programs.

Health Care reform is NOT about more "welfare" it's about helping folks just like bduetsch. Some through a period of unemployment, some because they will always be the "working poor".

Kind of sad that several here have made it clear they won't lift a finger in any way to help these various groups of people get at least some coverage. Fortunately the majority of the Nation has indicated they ARE willing to pay more if it will help.