Another School Shooting in CT

[redmt]

27 dead 19 kids 8 adults. What have we become? How is it the parents of these shooters have failed their kids so badly? There had to be outward signs from the shooters that the parents either failed to recognize or ignored. Sad.

[tcrist]

How can you day that the parents failed? From what I have heard the shooter was in his 20's. Well out of the parents control.

Sad day none the less.

[dcdoug]

The shooter's mother was a teacher at the school and was targeted and killed by her son long with a bunch of the kids in her class. Very, very sad.

[392cobra]

He killed his Dad too.

Edit....Looks to have been a bad TV news report.

[Bill Bess]

It's way too soon to make any educated judgements about the why's and what for's in this case.
It's just plain sad that so many little kids and adult lost their lives for nothing, but there's not much anyone can do to correct this problem.

My feeling is that there are too many young, entitled adults, without real values that freakout whenever things get tuff. I know from experiences and individuals in my own family that parents who failed to provide good leadership, guidance and enforce consequences have ended up with childish young adult kids that can't cope.

[tcrist]

There are also parents that provide good leadership, guidance, are great role models and their children are and have been in and out of jail all of their lives. Believe me, I have a neice that is a junkie welfair laden piece of crap and her other siblings are just fine. Why and how it happens, who knows.

[bliss]

[computerworks]

If anyone politicizes this or turns this thread into a stupid gun-control argument ... it will disappear.

Sadness, empathy and prayers are all that is really appropriate right now.

ron
ClubCobra Moderator

[Guitardave]

Originally Posted by computerworks

If anyone politicizes this or turns this thread into a stupid gun-control argument ... it will disappear.

Sadness, empathy and prayers are all that is really appropriate right now.

ron
ClubCobra Moderator

This following is copied from a friend on Facebook


Ty Nelson
While sitting in church this morning listening to Jerry Nelson and others talk about the tragedy in Newtown, CT, I sat thinking to myself what can we do to help protect our children and keep these things from happening. I thought about how lawmakers tell us that God is not allowed in schools, but our kids NEED him in their schools. So, my idea this day, and I hope everyone is with me, is that this Thursday night at 7:00 we gather as one and meet at every school possible at the flag pole and pray for God to wrap His loving arms around that school and every other school and protect it from evil! Ask that God be a part of that school whether lawmakers want Him there or not! Go to your child's school, where they will go, where they went, or to your nearest school and just pray! Please share or like if you're with me in this effort to keep or children safe! Help spread the word no matter where you are! Thursday, December 20th at 7:00, Prayer at the Pole!


I hope that you will take part whether it be 7PM on thursday or when you read this.

[redmt]

There are so many unanswered questions. One of my biggest is , why little kids? How could they have been kept safe? My thought is by controlling the root of the problem and that would be by helping the kid that shot them all. He had a history of mental illness and he and didn't get the help he needed. The system failed him.

[392cobra]

I'm not buying for a second that his parents failed him...society failed him....etc...he was a victim too BS.

He did it,he bought it.

Anyone that murders another has a screw loose. That doesn't give any an excuse of poor me.

[redmt]

This kid had a history of mental illness. I have zero sympathy for him. The signs were there and nobody did anything about it. The most common treatment for mental illness is to ignore it and hope it works itself out someway. A very good friend of mines son was bi-polar and violent. The best thing that happened is when the guy OD'ed on pills. I have a B'in law who is BP. He tried to commit suicide and wasn't successful. Everybody ignored these two guys. The tragedy is that they were born that way and the other tragedy was that they were neglected and ignored by their parents and the medical doctors that originally diagnosed them.

[bliss]

[vatdevil]

What are we as a society exposing our kids to? A movie industry that glorifies violence and makes shooting someone OK. We let them play paintball, which makes "killing" someone fun. Kids play airsoft, dressed as if they are going to war, killing their friends with guns that look exactly like assult weapons. Kids in our high school play a game called asassign, running around the neighborhood shooting each other with water guns that look exactly like the real ones. We let them play video games that simulate mass killing of people. And then, when there is a mass shooting, parents sit there and watch the 24/7 coverage, giving the mass killer the glory they crave. Are we as a society this stupid to think all this doesn't affect our children?

[KevinW]

A friend pointed out Morgan Freeman's comment on this ghastly event to me and the desire for post-mortem notoriety. Then I noticed that over here that BBC summary bulletins have just refered to a gunman. The UK printed press have been less discrete.

A prayer for the families - I cannot possibly imagine the anguish of those parents during advent.

[cdnus]

I hope this does not violate guidelines.

I received this from a unknown to me source, unsolicited.
I will leave it to others to comment on, other than to say I was taken back by it.
A bit of a read, but I would like to know others opinions.


The primary-school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, approximately 45 miles from the Colt Arms Factory, is just another one in the long line of government psyops designed to persuade the public to allow the government to take away their guns, and their means to defend themselves against the government and the banksters that the politicians really serve.

The small children murders are designed to create hysterical emotions in women to get them to demand that guns are banned. If that doesn’t work they will continue with their evil agenda with worse and worse atrocities on younger children, until they get their way and disarm the people, so that they cannot fight back against government tyranny.

Newtown is the U.S.A.’s Dunblane, which was orchestrated in Scotland in 1996 by the British establishment, to whip up hysteria in order to ban all handguns from the U.K. It was a follow-up to the Hungerford Massacre in England in 1987, which was carried out by mind-controlled Michael Ryan, who then shot himself so he could not be questioned, and it was used to ban semi-automatic rifles and shotguns.

It’s always the same people behind it – the gun-grabbers who want the people to be defenceless against the gun-grabbers’ employers – the banksters who own all of the politicians. They get their politicians to pass legislation for them, in order to remove the people’s freedoms and means of defending themselves, and enslave them in a draconian police-state, under a mountain of debt, and then exterminate the useless-eaters.

The Dunblane massacre was supposedly carried out by Thomas Hamilton, who was a paedophile and procurer of children, for a high level paedophile ring involving senior members of the Tony Blair Labour-Party shadow-cabinet and others. The massacre served two purposes, it achieved their desired handgun-ban and killed the abused children, so they could not be witnesses against the elite-paedophiles. They then had the findings of the inquiry sealed for 100 years, which is proof of the above.

Like Newtown there were two shooters, Hamilton and a hit-man who shot Hamilton and made it look like Hamilton committed suicide after shooting 16 children, so that he couldn’t be questioned. Hamilton was found in the school gymnasium slumped against a wall and still gurgling, when an off-duty policeman PC Grant McCutcheon entered the gym and saw two semi-automatic pistols, one on either side of Hamilton’s body.

The autopsy revealed that Hamilton was killed with a .38 revolver. These people always slip-up with their crimes. There was no .38 revolver for him to have shot himself with. Thus, there was a second shooter who killed Hamilton.

Similarly, the first reports from Newtown were of two shooters, just like mind-controlled James Holmes in the Denver Batman Cinema massacre, the story then quickly changes to just one.

Columbine was similar, in that a team of shooters in black outfits were seen there and the two accused were on mind-altering prescription-drugs.

Wake up and see the pattern and their modus operandi and don’t fall for it. Never let them take your guns, except from your cold dead hands.

All of these are staged events to whip-up hysterical public support for banning the people from having guns. It works the same in every country – Hungerford in England, Dunblane in Scotland, Port Arthur in Australia and the list in America is endless, because of the Second Amendment and the people having a pro-gun culture. That makes it much more difficult to break the Americans’ love of guns and the Second Amendment, which was put in place to protect the people from the government.

Gun bans work well for tyrants. They worked well for Hitler, Stalin and Chairman Mao, to name just three.

If you want to stop these massacres, wake-up and get rid of the banksters, their puppet-politicians and all gun-grabbers; arm teachers and ban gun-free zones.

From one who can see the pattern and hopes to enable you to see it too.

[computerworks]

Originally Posted by cdnus

I hope this does not violate guidelines.

Yup...it does.