Volkswagen!!

[Tim7139]

Originally Posted by xb-60

No hadn't heard that when I posted. Early reports here (Australia) said that at that stage, the 'affected' cars were those diesels sold in America.

Hard to comprehend how big (ie expensive) this is going to be for VW!

I had an Audi 10 years ago and I sold it after six months because things kept going wrong with it and the dealer's interest level was sub-zero.

I had a Golf 30 years ago. The body was good and solid, the mechanicals were....sub-zero.

I didn't think VW's integrity level was this low and their arrogance was this high though.

Cheers,
Glen

Perhaps you should learn more and opine less . Besides, everybody knows the lousy cars get culled and sent there.

[Ron61]

Here is this mornings news report on the Volkswagen mess here in the states mostly.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/vw-rec...194521326.html

Ron

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by Tim7139

Perhaps you should learn more and opine less . Besides, everybody knows the lousy cars get culled and sent there.

I'm missing something....can you elaborate?

Cheers,
Glen

[Tim7139]

Originally Posted by xb-60

I'm missing something....can you elaborate?

Cheers,
Glen

I've owned 5 Audi's. I think I blew out a bulb in one.

[Paul F]

Originally Posted by xb-60

I'm missing something....can you elaborate?

Cheers,
Glen

You're not missing anything. It was a discourteous and uncalled for response.

[Tim7139]

Originally Posted by Paul F

You're not missing anything. It was a discourteous and uncalled for response.

Really, so complaining about a 30 freaking year old golf adds to the discussion how, precisely?

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by Tim7139

Really, so complaining about a 30 freaking year old golf adds to the discussion how, precisely?

Yikes, mate! Settle down.
So what about the 11 million cars world wide, and the 90k here in Australia? Is there any reason that those current owners shouldn't be somewhat cheesed off by VAG's totally illegal activities?

Cheers
Glen

[Dominik]

If I was VW, I would take them all back and sell them to a country where Euro 6 emission law is not required. That way the world is kept clean... Or tell the current owners to drive slower to reduce emissions.

Am I sarcasic? Yes, because I don't believe in global warming - oups, sorry, global climate change. - Or, what is it called now?

Was VW lying and cheating? Yes.

Who informed the EPA? Maybe Piech, after he couldn't get rid of Winterkorn earlier this year and replace him with a person of his choice.

Piech already bought additional VW shares... Everybody should.

[Tim7139]

Originally Posted by Dominik

If I was VW, I would take them all back and sell them to a country where Euro 6 emission law is not required. That way the world is kept clean... Or tell the current owners to drive slower to reduce emissions.

Am I sarcasic? Yes, because I don't believe in global warming - oups, sorry, global climate change. - Or, what is it called now?

Was VW lying and cheating? Yes.

Who informed the EPA? Maybe Piech, after he couldn't get rid of Winterkorn earlier this year and replace him with a person of his choice.

Piech already bought additional VW shares... Everybody should.

Well, I guarantee, given the punitive nature of regulators, this gets more expensive, with nasty news, before it turns around.
There is, however, a lot I learned about deisel engines that speaks to the matter and this is way more complicated than it may first appear.
For, instance, I did not know that we're not talking about emissions common to other cars. Apparantly as the engines get going, o2 pollutants drop way down but No2 picks up and while most regulation is about carbon there has been some debate for a long time that you can't have it both ways with a 90% reduction on carbon dioxide without a bump in the nitrogen compomant.
Here in the US there has been a negotiation going on since last year, none of which, I'm sure is going to be a factor over time.

Remember, Toyota ended up writing a huge check for, we're not exactly sure what still at this stage of the game.

[Tim7139]

Originally Posted by xb-60

Yikes, mate! Settle down.
So what about the 11 million cars world wide, and the 90k here in Australia? Is there any reason that those current owners shouldn't be somewhat cheesed off by VAG's totally illegal activities?

Cheers
Glen

I'm perfectly settled. Is there some correlation to current owners relative to 30 year old golfs?

[xb-60]

Originally Posted by Tim7139

Perhaps you should learn more and opine less . Besides, everybody knows the lousy cars get culled and sent there.

Originally Posted by xb-60

I'm missing something....can you elaborate?

Cheers,
Glen

Please feel free to share your opinion on the ethics of conning eleven million car buyers....and yes, I have learnt something but it might be rude for me to comment further.

Cheers,
Glen

[Jaydee]

The older rear engine ones were great. Specially on a bonfire. Blocks were magnesium. I had to put a car out using sand. Lucky it caught fire next to a building site.
JD