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Old 08-17-2009, 10:37 AM
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Great Mark Steyn article on this subject....

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/l...29244-say-good

Unplugging Grandma isn't the problem


He speaks truth to my ears.

“The problem with government health systems is not that they pull the plug on Grandma. It’s that Grandma has a hell of a time getting plugged in in the first place. The only way to “control costs” is to restrict access to treatment, and the easiest people to deny treatment to are the oldsters. Don’t worry, it’s all very scientific. In Britain, they use a “Quality-Adjusted Life Year” formula to decide that you don’t really need that new knee because you’re gonna die in a year or two, maybe a decade-and-a-half tops. So it’s in the national interest for you to go around hobbling in pain rather than divert “finite resources” away from productive members of society to a useless old geezer like you. And you’d be surprised how quickly geezerdom kicks in: A couple of years back, some Quebec facilities were attributing death from hospital-contracted infection of anyone over 55 to “old age.” Well, he had a good innings. He was 57.”
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:25 PM
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The obamalumpas first say there is no "single payer" in their health care bill. Then they say they will take it out. Then they say they won't. How do you remove or not remove what was never there? Phucking Magic? [aka FM]

The obamalumpas say there is no "Death Panel" in the bill. Then they say they will take it out! More FM?

Then they say there is no Government system in the bill and then they say they will use Co-Ops instead of the Government. Co-ops ARE the Government.

That's just the steaming pile of bullcrap. What about the money? The obamalumpas say their plan will save millions. Disregarding the FACT that so far they have had NO Plan in place for anything they have done yet.
Like the American auto industry WILL NOT go bankrupt, Well Ford, American Toyota and American Honda didn't go bankrupt. But GM and Chrysler DID. Despite obama's assurances that they would not be ALLOWED to go bankrupt. But they did! Then the obamalumpas GIVE Chrysler to Fiat in spite of the secured creditors guarantees to be first paid. And then they GIVE GM to the UAW. Screwing the secured creditors again. Many of them just ordinary citizens. Was that all "PLANNED" from the start? No the "PLAN" was knee jerk from beginning to end, same as the health care "plans" are now.
The Congressional Budget Office says one plan will increase debt by over a trillion and another plan with increase debt by over 1.6 trillion. obamalama calls the CBO head on the White House carpet. The Executive Branch does not have authority over the CBO and had NO business calling its head in for an azz chewing. Then BHO says the CBO has adjusted their numbers. The CBO says the health care plan will not increase debt by a trillion---------------------------If you steal 300 million from Medicare and raise taxes by 700 million. Obamalama left that out. And the $1.6 trillion overspend just vanished to somewhere. Then the obamalama says he will not sign a bill that, "is not revenue neutral!"

"REVENUE NEUTRAL"!!!! What happened to the savings? Where'd they go?
Plan? What plan, what day/hour?
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