Canadian Healthcare System is Imploding

[bomelia]

Dr. Anne Doig, the incoming president of the Canadian Medical Association, said her country’s health care system is “sick” and “imploding,” the Canadian Press reported.

“We know there must be change,” Doig said in a recent interview. “We’re all running flat out, we’re all just trying to stay ahead of the immediate day-to-day demands.”

[cdnus]

We're doing just fine thank you.
We just have to elect someone who has the balls to stop all the freeloaders coming here from all over the world, taking advantage of our health care & contributing NOTHING to the system.
Here everyone even the illegals are entitled to full benefits. Nobody insures that they have contributed or will ever contribute.
That is the only shortcoming to our system as I see it. Too many freeloaders jaming things up.

JMO

Craig

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by cdnus

We just have to elect someone who has the balls to stop all the freeloaders coming here from all over the world, taking advantage of our health care & contributing NOTHING to the system. Here everyone even the illegals are entitled to full benefits. Nobody insures that they have contributed or will ever contribute. That is the only shortcoming to our system as I see it. Too many freeloaders jaming things up.

That's exactly what type of health care system obama wants, to insure everybody, all illegal aliens etc. In essence, he wants to model it after the canadian system. Now if he would instead change the legal profession to a loser pays all system, something that may actually improve the economics here in the US.

A friend of mine is a surgeon from Canada, his wife as well. Recently, within the last 2-3 years, his mother-in-law developed hematuria (blood in urine). She was slated to see a urologist in Canada in 3-4 months. My friend elected to bring her to the US instead, she had money, where she was diagnosed with the big CA, and underwent a nephrectomy in a week or so. She's glad she came here for care. That's just one story of many. One of my employees is from Canada as well, with her family still living there.

I'm sure you find that your Canadian health care system is fine, but I can tell you, it's alot different from the care that is provided in the states, but if you don;t know any better, you would not miss anything. Kind of like a blind man born blind never misses seeing.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by cdnus

We're doing just fine thank you.
We just have to elect someone who has the balls to stop all the freeloaders coming here from all over the world, taking advantage of our health care & contributing NOTHING to the system.
Here everyone even the illegals are entitled to full benefits. Nobody insures that they have contributed or will ever contribute.
That is the only shortcoming to our system as I see it. Too many freeloaders jaming things up.

JMO

Craig

That IS what UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE is all about. And they are trying to say that covering the public parasites is a good thing here. We already do cover ALL, but they want everybody to have a get EVERYTHING FREE card and make it official .

[tcrist]

Originally Posted by Dan40

That IS what UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE is all about. And they are trying to say that covering the public parasites is a good thing here. We already do cover ALL, but they want everybody to have a get EVERYTHING FREE card and make it official .

That is unless you work your a$$ off and pay into it all of your life. Then they want you to give it to someone else that did not earn or pay for it.

Same-Same, just my wording it different.


Terry

[cobra de capell]

Originally Posted by cdnus

We're doing just fine thank you.
We just have to elect someone who has the balls to stop all the freeloaders coming here from all over the world, taking advantage of our health care & contributing NOTHING to the system.
Here everyone even the illegals are entitled to full benefits. Nobody insures that they have contributed or will ever contribute.
That is the only shortcoming to our system as I see it. Too many freeloaders jaming things up.

JMO

Craig

So, where are the freeloaders coming from? I've not heard of such a problem in Canada. Surely, not from Mexico or south of Mexico.

[cdnus]

Pick any country where English is not their primary launguage!!!!

Craig

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by tcrist

That is unless you work your a$$ off and pay into it all of your life. Then they want you to give it to someone else that did not earn or pay for it.

Same-Same, just my wording it different.


Terry

My bad,

The EVERYTHING FREE card is only for the pubic parasites. Actual producers must pay for the EVERYTHING FREE cards.


edit:
Make that pubLic,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[tcrist]

Dan40,
Sorry, I seem to realy have a bad attatude about a lot of things lately. I am close to retirment and there probably won't be anything left because of the free-loaders.
Aw he!!, theres none left now. What am I thinking.

Terry

[Wayne Maybury]

Originally Posted by cdnus

We just have to elect someone who has the balls to stop all the freeloaders coming here from all over the world, taking advantage of our health care & contributing NOTHING to the system.
Here everyone even the illegals are entitled to full benefits. Nobody insures that they have contributed

They come from all over. Some are illegals living in the US with no insurance. They cross the border and get free care up here, possibly using their friend's Medicare card.

What you have said is true but that is part of the problem. Many of the people over crowding the hospitals and doctor's offices are Canadians that do not really need to see a doctor. I still maintain that everyone should have to pay a nomial charge to visit a doctor or emergency room. It would stop some people from needlessly going to the doctor and it would also put some badly needed $$$$$ into the system.

Wayne

[cobra de capell]

It seems like Canada could 'tweak' their current system as we should 'tweak' our current system without adopting something close to Canada's.

Both systems could use a strict ID system with medical records automated and accessible through the ID - illegals would have to go away. Also, a co-pay after, say 3 doctor visits a year seems like a good thing to consider.

[Dan40]

Originally Posted by tcrist

Dan40,
Sorry, I seem to realy have a bad attatude about a lot of things lately. I am close to retirment and there probably won't be anything left because of the free-loaders.
Aw he!!, theres none left now. What am I thinking.

Terry

I been sucking up them retirement bucks for a couple of years now. I left Ca, 25+ years ago. I was recently divorced, driving my new $500+ per month BMW [single guy, had to have a Beemmer] and paying over twice the car payment [rent] for a townhouse with a view of the parking lot.
Moved to Florida, Bought a place ON the ocean for $35 more per month than the BMW payment. Suddenly the BMW looked silly, dumped it. The Soc. Security is at the top of the scale but still chump change. But the recent stock market has made the SS checks look much better.

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Wayne Maybury

Many of the people over crowding the hospitals and doctor's offices are Canadians that do not really need to see a doctor. I still maintain that everyone should have to pay a nomial charge to visit a doctor or emergency room. It would stop some people from needlessly going to the doctor and it would also put some badly needed $$$$$ into the system.

Copy the US Medicare system, that's the way it is set up. 80/20.

[Wayne Maybury]

Originally Posted by cobra de capell

It seems like Canada could 'tweak' their current system as we should 'tweak' our current system without adopting something close to Canada's.

Both systems could use a strict ID system with medical records automated and accessible through the ID - illegals would have to go away. Also, a co-pay after, say 3 doctor visits a year seems like a good thing to consider.

You got that right. I can't understand why we (US & Canada) allow illegals to have priviledges to which they have not, and will not, contribute.

Unfortunately, the law up here is for Universal coverage and the way it was written, there cannot be any user fees. This was fine when this was introduced about 45 years ago but I think that this must now change.

Our Medicare card numbers are not tied to our social insurance numbers which is plain stupid. I guess that may infringe on someone's right to defraud the system.

Wayne

Wayne

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by Wayne Maybury

You got that right. I can't understand why we (US & Canada) allow illegals to have priviledges to which they have not, and will not, contribute.

Because the lawyers, I mean politicians, have written the laws that way.

Originally Posted by Wayne Maybury

Unfortunately, the law up here is for Universal coverage and the way it was written, there cannot be any user fees. This was fine when this was introduced about 45 years ago but I think that this must now change.

yeah. Back then, the only meds were penicillin and aspirin. Now there is alot more care/meds to offer.

Originally Posted by Wayne Maybury

Our Medicare card numbers are not tied to our social insurance numbers which is plain stupid. I guess that may infringe on someone's right to defraud the system.

I think your system has alot more stupid aspects than having separate ID numbers. Minor issue.

[Excaliber]

Anthony says,

...to insure everybody, all illegal aliens etc.

Yeah, and pigs fly! It's unreal how easy it is to dupe radical right wingers into believing whatever their told (points for correct spelnig of there). It's YOU guys that are drinking the kool aid.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Anthony says,





Yeah, and pigs fly! It's unreal how easy it is to dupe radical right wingers into believing whatever their told (points for correct spelnig of there). It's YOU guys that are drinking the kool aid.

"they're"

...points deducted

[Excaliber]

Dang....