Comparing 4000 and 6000 series

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by CompFi

How would you assess value across the two series?
Thanks,
Brian

No difference between the two value wise. Fiberglass body vs Aluminum body, yes. But side by side, identically built CSX4000 series vs CSX6000 series, no.

Do not treat the car as an "investment for the future", but instead a shiny toy you want to own. Why, simple, because Shelby Enterprises is still pumping them out as fast as they can sell them, thus further diluting the market.

Originally Posted by CompFi

With the passing of Mr. Shelby, what do you think the effect will be on the long term value of the recent 6000 series cars that don’t have his signature on the MSO?

Thanks,
Brian

None at all, sorry.

Bill S.

PS: I'm betting that during his lifetime, CS signed over 100,000 items, some are his actual signature, some are robo signatures he himself authorized. Sadly, they are both worth less today, than when they were originally signed. Value, sentimental more than monetary. Again, sorry.

PSS: I'm also betting that after is passing, the robo signing of his name continued, thus diluting the "value" you speak about above. Again, sorry.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

No difference between the two value wise. Fiberglass body vs Aluminum body, yes. But side by side, identically built CSX4000 series vs CSX6000 series, no.

Do not treat the car as an "investment for the future", but instead a shiny toy you want to own. Why, simple, because Shelby Enterprises is still pumping them out as fast as they can sell them, thus further diluting the market.



None at all, sorry.

Bill S.

PS: I'm betting that during his lifetime, CS signed over 100,000 items, some are his actual signature, some are robo signatures he himself authorized. Sadly, they are both worth less today, than when they were originally signed. Value, sentimental more than monetary. Again, sorry.

PSS: I'm also betting that after is passing, the robo signing of his name continued, thus diluting the "value" you speak about above. Again, sorry.

Robo signing is still available: https://www.shelby.com/shelbyfoundat...tive-Signature

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Do not treat the car as an "investment for the future", but instead a shiny toy you want to own. Why, simple, because Shelby Enterprises is still pumping them out as fast as they can sell them, thus further diluting the market.

I think you'll find that a Shelby CSX car will retain its value or slightly appreciate over the purchase price. I'll assert that it will apply to Kirkham and a well built Superformance will to a lesser degree. I made a slight amount when I sold my CSX (maybe because of the carbon fiber). When adding the standing-still costs of insurance and license/registration I basically broke even. Older cars will have more of a gain than newer cars. The reason is that all of these, if built and maintained well, track the cost of replacement with a new one.

PS: I'm betting that during his lifetime, CS signed over 100,000 items, some are his actual signature, some are robo signatures he himself authorized. Sadly, they are both worth less today, than when they were originally signed. Value, sentimental more than monetary. Again, sorry.

PSS: I'm also betting that after is passing, the robo signing of his name continued, thus diluting the "value" you speak about above. Again, sorry.

You could send anything to the foundation and have it signed. Glove box covers were probably the most popular item. I'd wager that a '07 Shelby GT500 Mustang WITHOUT a signature on the dash is rarer than those with. These parts still show up on eBay for exorbitant prices but don't sell. I was at Gardena one day when he was signing. He didn't do too many at a time because if you recall your signature at the mortgage closing the last one didn't look much like the first one.

The robo signatures are different than the in person ones - three vs two hash marks? (or the reverse of that).

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

I think you'll find that a Shelby CSX car will retain its value or slightly appreciate over the purchase price.

Potentially, depending on when you purchased your car (before the big price increases), and in the right venue, you might, M-I-G-H-T turn a mild profit on a fiberglass car. Aluminum, same thing, only a more volatile market that swings with the stock market. If you are purchasing "new" today, once again, it is not an "investment grade" item. Maybe if you hold it for 20-50 years, and there are still people around then that remember what a combustion engine is, or how to brew their own gasoline, perhaps, but I would not count on the car appreciating as long as they continue to pump others out that are newer than yours.

Again, just my two cents worth as someone who has been involved in the hobby since the early 80's

Bill S.

PS: We are talking, stand alone, private sales, as auction results can vary greatly depending on the amount of alcoholic drinks served, and the ego(s) involved at that time. Auction results, do not make the market as a whole.

[Harpoon PV2]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

You could send anything to the foundation and have it signed. Glove box covers were probably the most popular item. I'd wager that a '07 Shelby GT500 Mustang WITHOUT a signature on the dash is rarer than those with. These parts still show up on eBay for exorbitant prices but don't sell. I was at Gardena one day when he was signing. He didn't do too many at a time because if you recall your signature at the mortgage closing the last one didn't look much like the first one.

The robo signatures are different than the in person ones - three vs two hash marks? (or the reverse of that).

I remember some 15 or so years ago, there was a joke going around, that non signed glovebox cars would be worth more then signed!