4000 series hub / upright / spidle options

shelby racer · #1 (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

PowerSurge... I bet over 99% of the ClubCobra audience agrees with this sentiment.

I had a friend tell me a year ago that he wished he had lied and cheated more because he sees how it has gotten others ahead. It is sad that it stands out when people do what is right as opposed to it being more of the standard. It has gotten to the point where there are commercials on TV trying to encourage people to do the right thing. I have been fortunate that I have people who still believe in doing the right thing in my life. Believe me, I had a bunch that go the other way also (and we are not talking about ignoring a problem but cheating and stealing) - like the fact that the first cobra I had was an Arntz I I had the "honor"

of getting personally ripped off by Steve Arntz.

Three Peaks · #2 (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 11:20 AM

Okay, so now what is the verdict? I haven't read every post in this thread, but almost all of them but I thought I read the rotor DIDN'T have to be pressed off, is that right?

If so, just replacing bolts with better bolts/nuts and torquing to spec should take care of the major problem at this point or is there something else I'm missing?

Are the uprights machined out of Stainless or are they hard aluminum? If they are stainless, I would stay away from Stainless fasteners as they will gall and possibly damage the part next time they have to be removed. Go with a grade 8.9 Metric bolt, possibly in black oxide coating and a good hardened washer. In this particular case, I wouldn't use nylock nuts, rather I would use the Metal crimped locking nuts as I've seen the nylock lose some of their grip on the bolt over time with heat, abuse, etc damageing them.

Bob

shelby racer · #3 (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Three Peaks

Okay, so now what is the verdict? I haven't read every post in this thread, but almost all of them but I thought I read the rotor DIDN'T have to be pressed off, is that right?

If so, just replacing bolts with better bolts/nuts and torquing to spec should take care of the major problem at this point or is there something else I'm missing?

Are the uprights machined out of Stainless or are they hard aluminum? If they are stainless, I would stay away from Stainless fasteners as they will gall and possibly damage the part next time they have to be removed. Go with a grade 8.9 Metric bolt, possibly in black oxide coating and a good hardened washer. In this particular case, I wouldn't use nylock nuts, rather I would use the Metal crimped locking nuts as I've seen the nylock lose some of their grip on the bolt over time with heat, abuse, etc damageing them.

Bob

Okay, I took the other (driver's side) down to my mechanic. It did NOT have to be pressed off. All of the bolts were loose, but not as bad as the passenger side so the billet aluminum upright was not as scarred. We chased all the threads in the steel ball joint mount and installed new metric 12.9 black oxide fasteners with loctite and hardened washers after dressing all the applicable surfaces. At this point my mechanic feels that it should be sufficient for now (although we are investigating customs rotors and hats for when I need to do a brake job and turn the rotors in the future so that I will not have to pull the suspension apart again. With any luck, I will be back on the road later this week or by the week end.

John(;-)

RodKnock · #4 (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 11:51 AM

Yep, that moral obligation thing works every time. I hear the phone ringing now.

Hey, maybe ask SAI if they want to hire an Director of Veterinary Medicine to take care of all the veterinary needs for for their employees. And while you're there, maybe they can find a solution to your CSX's suspension.

I hope (sue them) your problem (sue them) is resolved (sue them) quickly and (sue them) without too much (sue them) hassle.

This subliminal message was brought to you by the Law Firm of Dewey Cheatem and Howe.

Sorry shelbryracer, just trying to cheer you up.

patrickt · #5 (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

Hey, maybe ask SAI if they want to hire an Director of Veterinary Medicine to care of all the veterinary needs for for their employees. And while you're there, maybe they can find a solution to your CSX's suspension.

I hope (sue them) your problem (sue them) is resolved (sue them) quickly and (sue them) without too much (sue them) hassle.

Ellie (below) says, "try and work it out amicably, but if all they do is offer to throw you a bone then give it to me and take RodKnock's advice."

shelby racer · #6 (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by patrickt

Ellie (below) says, "try and work it out amicably, but if all they do is offer to throw you a bone then give it to me and take RodKnock's advice."

Still trying for a happy ending for all. Any bones will be directly forwarded to Ellie. Hopefully SAI will hook me up in the future
John(;-)

shelby racer · #7 (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 11:04 PM

I asked SAI for torque specs and material specs on the suspension. I had a reply in my in box when I got up today. Even though I am quickly not becoming the favorite person over there (I know that they have been getting calls about the front suspension on the 4700 cobras - I am sure more people are reading the thread than are replying) I got great service regarding my request and was dealt with in an extremely professional manner. I miss that friendly feeling but I did try to resolve this matter privately with them first and I think it is a good idea that the people who have a suspension like mine check it. I know others have had problems and mine would not have gotten caught if it were not that I was having my mechanic investigate something else and he took it upon his self to go over the whole car. If the problem had not been caught and fixed, I could have died / been injured. hurt the car badly or hurt / killed someone else. If some one else discovers a similar problem because of this thread and avoids such a catastrophe, my drama will have been worth it.
John(;-)

I will keep people up dated as we finish tearing the rotors down and inspecting them and doing the reassembly. I am hoping to pick everything up wed morning and get the car back together then or saturday. I actually have to fill in and work thurs and fri at a hospital.

RICK LAKE · #8 (**permalink**) 03-24-2009, 03:52 AM

patrickt The dogs name is EMMA not Ellie. Same color eyes, about the same wieght and height. 11 lbs all wet. Same color with white feet. Nickname "pita" Runs the house. The only good things is my cobra was not attacked my a mexician posse and the color is white.

Rick L.

RICK LAKE · #9 (**permalink**) 03-24-2009, 04:04 AM

Shelby Racer Gald that CSI is working with you in a forward motion to help fix this problem. Hope for a good test ride on Sat.

It's a shame that CSI had to do this the hard way and not be stand up in the beginning.

Their decision to fix the car goes along way in knowing that they are standing behind the product.

I know this may cost the company a little money if others find a problem with there cars, but in the long run, CSI may have just save a human life. There is NOTHING more important than this. Another good thread coming to an end with a good out come. CSI THANKS for the HELP.

Rick L.

shelby racer · #10 (**permalink**) 03-23-2009, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RodKnock

Hey, maybe ask SAI if they want to hire an Director of Veterinary Medicine to take care of all the veterinary needs for for their employees. And while you're there, maybe they can find a solution to your CSX's suspension.

Sorry shelbryracer, just trying to cheer you up.

When I used to do consulting for the Navy they had base vets that would take care of the officer's pets. Unfortunately I am not licenced in NV

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Thanks Rod knock