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Old 02-13-2012, 07:48 AM
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I had the same problem you described earlier with not being able to get a screwdriver all the way through a filter. I was able to drill a hole through the center of the filter a bit smaller than the shaft of the screwdriver and then could get the screwdriver through by tapping it with a hammer. Then I was able to grasp the screwdriver on both sides of the filter and it came loose quite easily then, even though the hole was at an angle due to space restrictions. A set of extra long drill bits have come in handy for lots of uses over the years.

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Old 02-13-2012, 08:33 AM
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SUCCESS!!!

I went back in there this morning with the filter wrench from the top and grabbed and pushed. Put all my weight into it and held the pressure for 2 minutes and the ***** gave in! I have a huge welt on my palm but the victory was worth it. who said brut force is over rated

btw thanks all for the suggestions! I think what clicked for me where the suggestions about "constant pressure" to loosen the rubber gasket vs pulsating like you would to loosen a frozen bolt.

whew, very relieved, I think I watch every youtube video on this topic and can pay it forward if anyone encounters a similar challenge

Thanks again, this is a great site with a lot of experts!
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Power = energy / time.
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Old 02-13-2012, 11:22 AM
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Congrats, Art, that's got to be a load off your mind!

Zaphod, I think you mean X not /.
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No, I think I got it right. Had to do a quick wiki search to make sure.

Power is the rate at which work is done or energy is expended: energy/time. Not the aggregate amount of energy over a period.
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this thread wouldn't be complete without a picture of the offending party





it almost got the better of me. have never felt better about completing what should have been a very simple process

new filter is on, lubed the gasket and hand tightened 3/4 turn
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Old 02-13-2012, 02:10 PM
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Constant pressure created heat which loosened the rubber grip. Engineers chime in, am I wrong? ...and i know we have engineers
Cripe, that filter looks like a christmas ornament!!!!
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Thanks Jay, saw your email and will look for the strap tool tomorrow and see if it works. There are two things working against me right now, 1) it seems whatever tool I use seems to just collapse the filter housing because it's crushed like a soda can & 2) there's very limited room to apply any force. The rigidity of the filter is compromised so when I apply torque the weakest areas just crumple without turning so if there was more room I may be able to push through. Hopefully this tool will get close enough to the block and lock in tight

All thoughts and suggestions are much appreciated right now !
I take it you did warm the car up befor trying to remove filter
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I use a very large pair of channel locks at times. Never found a filter I couldn't remove this way. Just crush the bajesus outta it! You won't even break a sweat.
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:58 PM
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The HP filters from Ford, Fram, Wix & K&N have heavier material and are less likely to collapse.
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:32 AM
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The HP filters from Ford, Fram, Wix & K&N have heavier material and are less likely to collapse.
X2, but they are a good bit tougher to cut open for inpection as well.
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Old 02-15-2012, 05:22 AM
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If none of the above suggestions work, can you get a bicycle chain that has enough clearance to go around the top of the filter and between it and the fuel pump? If so, then bring the ends down to where you can get hold of them and put a small bar through the ends and pull the way it will tighten the chain and be turning the filter to loosen it. We had one that we finally had to take the can part off of and use another method to get broken loose. Some people think that when they put them on, they have to be as tight as they can get them. I just put mine on hand tight and then maybe a quarter of an inch turn with the wrench and have never had a problem.

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