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12-15-2011, 12:47 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 289 FIA #690, FRPP 427 Boss engine
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Both are a pain, but for different reasons. I hate opening a perfectly good intake given you have to drain the coolant, disconnect fuel lines and linkage, remove the distributor (not always), and scrape gasket and sealant. Valve seal are much less invasive, but do require removing rocker arms, finding a way to retain the valves (usually air) while you remove the locks and retainers, and then install rockers and readjust all the valves. Given a choice, I would always go for replacing seals.
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12-15-2011, 12:59 PM
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I replaced the seal in a 351 last month. I use an adapter to blow air into the cylinders. I borrowed a tool to compress the spring and a magnet to remove the keepers. A third hand makes it a lot easier. It took about 1 1/2 hours to replace the seals.
Dwight
When you remove the intake, drain the oil first or plan on new oil when you finish.
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12-15-2011, 01:57 PM
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Well just an update ford racing have gone all quiet they will not reply to my emails now that i have told them they are hiding this issue, i know 2 other 427's here in sydney that had to get the orange seals changed and if you include mine that makes three and there tech line had the nerv to tell me they have had no issues with seals, don from the ffcars forum told me his 427 had bad seals but could not tell me the colour as he just pulled the motor out and sent it back, yes we had to pull a pefectly sealed intake and that has totally pissed me off!!! thanks to there good for nothing tech line, so BEWARE ANYONE THAT HAS ORDED ONE OF THESE 427'S check the seals before install if there orange just change them or better still before you recieve it demand that the seals are not orange, shame on you ford racing for the way you are treating me,
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12-15-2011, 06:57 PM
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Okay an hour after my lasy post i got a email from ford racing, if changing the seals fix's the problem they asked me to send the bill and they will run it by management.
chris.
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12-15-2011, 07:54 PM
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I think punative damages are in order. Make sure you include that!
Good to hear they responded. I love how empowered people are to make a decision.
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12-16-2011, 06:36 AM
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Definitely include the intake gasket they sent you on a wild goose chase with.
I have one I ordered in late July 2011. Anyone know if or when they fixed this problem? I had my valve covers off to swap left for right, but didn't look. I started it for the first time last night and it was smokey, but didn't smell like oil smoke. It was way rich and retarded.
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12-16-2011, 02:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Luce
Definitely include the intake gasket they sent you on a wild goose chase with.
I have one I ordered in late July 2011. Anyone know if or when they fixed this problem? I had my valve covers off to swap left for right, but didn't look. I started it for the first time last night and it was smokey, but didn't smell like oil smoke. It was way rich and retarded.
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Sounds like what happened to me from start up, but timing was right i have my dizzy locked at 32 and carb was a pro systems that was built for my 408, i rang pro systems and they said it would be perfect for this motor, are you sure its running rich? run it for a while and stick your fingers in the tail exhaust pipes, mine were covered in oil, i thought the same thing at first its running rich and then i drove it and it would smoke bad at idle and be okay once driving, also when it was cold(morning start) would not smoke till it got to norm temp,pull the plugs , there was oil in every cylinder in mine, but i really hope its just running rich, i know how your feeling now though.
cheers chris.
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