Scof

[gary osborne]

True...it is FINALLY a pay site which I totally support. I have been saying it should be a pay site for years. First of all, unlike here where there are advertisers to help pay the freight, the owner (Randy) carried the full cost on his back not to mention the dozens of hours each week to manage all the happenings, new members etc. It was a thankless job. Even if everyone signed on at the highest level, the site will still need to be subsidized by Randy. I figure it is about the cost of a couple tanks of gas a year....chump change. But what a value !!!!!! Also, the new site is far improved with more features and more benefits. If people simply take advantage on one mass buy or special discounted products and services for SCOF members only, the site will pay the user back more than the cost. I can't wait until all the dust settles and the new benefits and features are rolled out. This is going to be even better yet. And heck....even with all the emails it is like reading this one thread here in a day. Not a big deal even if there are some off topic comments like stock tips and minor whining. 8-)

Uncle Fester

[Silverback51]

I agree with Uncle Fester.

It's a great site that I will gladly support. Not unlike this site when they ask for donations, or the Gasholes site. I support what I'm part of.

[SFcobra65]

I will not be joining the newly formed paysite of SCOF.I just cant afford it by june 30th with having new Twin girls...I may in the future.But what really blows is not having access to tech stuff concerning my car.Maybe Superformance should have ponied up the costs to support the new group insted of giving up a Cobra.
I may own a SPF , but i defiently cant afford to do alot of the things most SPF owners or Cobra owners in general can do , and the loss of tech and safety info is one thing i feel should not be charged for.I will either try and get help when needed here , or thru Dennis Olthoff...
Thank-you to all the sponsors here at Club Cobra for helping keep this site a Free access site.

Frank G.
SPF086

[gary osborne]

ahhhhh....come on Franky....

First of all, congrats on the new ladies in your life. I was not aware you were still having youngins.

As for SCOF, I don't buy the "can't afford it" thing. If you are driving your SPF (or making babies), then you can afford to stay up to date on it. After all, you are talking less than a buck a week. About 15 cents a day. You lose that much when you lean back in your recliner to sleep through Dancing With the Stars or to rock one of the babies.

SCOF isn't for everyone (although I don't get that...I accept it). But money should not be the reason. If someone wants to enjoy the wealth of knowledge and the friendships, then they have to participate. It is not a right of passage with ownership of the car. SCOF does not get a piece of that action. That money goes to SPF. Furthermore, when the car is bought from a private seller, not even SPF makes anything. Someone also once asked why doesn't SPF subsidize the site. The answer is simple, we don't want them to. If the site is paid for by SPF, then there is a certain built in leverage that goes to the sponsor. The owner are beholding to them. This way, the Owner's Forum is just that. It belongs to the owners and represents THEIR interests....not the manufacturer's interest. That keeps the manufacturer in check due to the strength of the independent owner's group. It is simply the best of the best and those who support the site will benefit the most. Other owners will benefit too but miss out on all the fun and inside knowledge. There is far more knowledge about the cars in SCOF than there is at the factory or dealers or anywhere else for that matter. The sampling of owners and broad level of experience and many years of combined ownership is just too great of a resource for anyone or any site to even attempt to match.

To each their own but in my humble opinion, if it was a dollar a day it would still be too cheap.

Fester

[SFcobra65]

I am very aware of the reasons i have read , that RT had to take SCOF to a Membership paid site...The cost may be only a $1.00 per day to get the basic membership , but to have that fee in by the 30th is not something i can do , due to a very strict budget at the moment , due to my twins.

Just because i own a Superformance does not means i can afford all the things the rest of you do.When i can join , i probably will , just because i do not want to be out of the loop on Tech issues , since i have one of the Oldest Superformances...

You need to remember , i got MY Dream car a completely different way that 99% of you have , and it takes everything i have to keep it.I start it up , drive it down the road a bit , and then back to the garage , just to not add any other stress on the parts.This is due to trying to trying to save all the money we have to put towards my family.Remember , i am a stay at home dad with them , and my wife is the sole income provider and things have to be put into the budget she has made for us , this fee is not something we can do by the 30th...

$50 or $60 out of a tight budget already is not something we can do right now.While SCOF is a great site and club , it is not the end all be all place for information , that is why i will rely on Dennis Olthoff until i can join the newly formed Pay site of SCOF.I have alot of respect for RT and what he has done and taken on , and enjoyed alot of the e-mail banter so dont get things mis understood.....

At the moment , my family and its well being is most important and definetly out weighs joining right now.... I look forward to joining in the future hopefully.

Frank
SPF086

Oh , and I hate all those Dancing with the Stars type shows.. Just to let YOU know.

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by SFcobra65

I am very aware of the reasons i have read , that RT had to take SCOF to a Membership paid site...The cost may be only a $1.00 per day to get the basic membership , but to have that fee in by the 30th is not something i can do , due to a very strict budget at the moment , due to my twins.

Just because i own a Superformance does not means i can afford all the things the rest of you do.When i can join , i probably will , just because i do not want to be out of the loop on Tech issues , since i have one of the Oldest Superformances...

You need to remember , i got MY Dream car a completely different way that 99% of you have , and it takes everything i have to keep it.I start it up , drive it down the road a bit , and then back to the garage , just to not add any other stress on the parts.This is due to trying to trying to save all the money we have to put towards my family.Remember , i am a stay at home dad with them , and my wife is the sole income provider and things have to be put into the budget she has made for us , this fee is not something we can do by the 30th...

$50 or $60 out of a tight budget already is not something we can do right now.While SCOF is a great site and club , it is not the end all be all place for information , that is why i will rely on Dennis Olthoff until i can join the newly formed Pay site of SCOF.I have alot of respect for RT and what he has done and taken on , and enjoyed alot of the e-mail banter so dont get things mis understood.....

At the moment , my family and its well being is most important and definetly out weighs joining right now.... I look forward to joining in the future hopefully.

Frank
SPF086

Oh , and I hate all those Dancing with the Stars type shows.. Just to let YOU know.

Hello Frank,

If you have a PayPal account send me the information and I will provide you with the money. Consider it a baby shower gift.

And congratulations on the twins.

[Got the Bug]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Hello Frank,

If you have a PayPal account send me the information and I will provide you with the money. Consider it a baby shower gift.

And congratulations on the twins.

That's a classy move John! Really emphasizes the positives and camaraderie in the Cobra community.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

If you have a PayPal account send me the information and I will provide you with the money.

Uhhh John, you can go ahead and get me a membership while you're at it too. I've got kids, could always use an extra buck or two, and I'm kind of a SPF fan too.

[Silverback51]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Uhhh John, you can go ahead and get me a membership while you're at it too. I've got kids, could always use an extra buck or two, and I'm kind of a SPF fan too.

Nice try Patrick. Nice try.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by patrickt

Uhhh John, you can go ahead and get me a membership while you're at it too. I've got kids, could always use an extra buck or two, and I'm kind of a SPF fan too.

Patrick, Break time is over. Time to get back in your Liars Anonymous meeting.

[SFcobra65]

"There is far more knowledge about the cars in SCOF than there is at the factory or dealers or anywhere else for that matter. "

^
Oh , 1 more thing , i will put the knowledge of Dennis Olthoff up against just about anyone that is a Member of SCOF, if not the entire bunch.

Frank
SPF06

[SFcobra65]

John....
Thats got to be one of the nicest things anyone has offerd to do for me in quite some time.... One heck of a thing to offer to do.WOW!! i just cant get past that.... I am at a loss of words....

Frank G.
SPF086

[RodKnock]

John, BTW, what a generous offer you made to Frank. The good Karma will roll back around to you.

[dcdoug]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

John, BTW, what a generous offer you made to Frank. The good Karma will roll back around to you.

x2. All kidding aside, very nicely done.

[Silverback51]

Well I'm digging up an old thread, but there is a reason for this that I though I would share with everyone.

We are coming up on the one year anniversary of when I sent some money to a person so they could sign up on SCOF.

That person never signed up, nor did they return the money. Was I ripped off? I guess I was, but over the years I have helped out a lot of people I have known, and this will not stop me from doing so in the future. However I will probably make sure I know the person a little better next time.

Just thought I would let everyone know what happened.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Just thought I would let everyone know what happened.

Well John, you should have sent him a solid, flat tappet cam instead.

[craigayl]

Ditto to the Gary Osborne post!

SCOF is not about the numbers, but the quality of the members. I don't get here to CC often enough, but that is mostly a time constaints. As far as Cobra friends go, SCOF is my first priority. Next January will be my 10th anniversary with my Superformance and I know the only reason it has lasted this long is because of SCOF. Lots of great friends!

Craig

[ACademic]

Originally Posted by computerworks

If you do not have "SPF" in your profile, stay off this thread.

Thanks
ron
ClubCobra Moderator

Originally Posted by GEE TEE

The only real problem I've noticed since I've been reading this forum is PatrickT. How about selectively removing the real offenders instead?

Originally Posted by patrickt

Well John, you should have sent him a solid, flat tappet cam instead.

Just connecting the dots, Ron.

[Great Asp]

Originally Posted by Silverback51

Well I'm digging up an old thread, but there is a reason for this that I though I would share with everyone.

We are coming up on the one year anniversary of when I sent some money to a person so they could sign up on SCOF.

That person never signed up, nor did they return the money. Was I ripped off? I guess I was, but over the years I have helped out a lot of people I have known, and this will not stop me from doing so in the future. However I will probably make sure I know the person a little better next time.

Just thought I would let everyone know what happened.

I read that post and chuckled.

"No good deed goes unpunished"

Too many times in life when you try to help someone, it back fires.

No reason not to keep trying though...

E

[gary osborne]

Just one correction regarding Franks post. The various memberships range from 50 to 95 bucks a YEAR. It is not $1 per day. It is $1 a week. $1 a day would be $365 annually. The cost is about 50 bucks a year or less than a buck a week. The super duper Platinum membership is less than $2 a week. Let's see....that is the cost of a Coke at McDonald's or 6 cigarettes or half a gallon of gas or half a loaf of bread. An annual top of the line membership for a year is less than a cell phone for one month or half the cost of a month of cable TV or a haircut once every two months. Hardly a burden for virtually anyone.

As for the bank of knowledge, I hold Dennis O right up there with anyone BUT I also hold several of the individual SCOF members up with Dennis. As far as the combined knowledge, it is no contest. Dennis is a master with small blocks which accounts for most of the SPFs and of course he knows the rollers about as well as anyone overall. On the other hand, the historical information on SCOF for the number breaks for various changes in production specs cannot be found anywhere but SCOF or from Jimmy Price and when you consider all the various available upgrades, no other source has the resources of SCOF. That does not say anything negative of anyone, including Dennis. It is simply a matter of number of people, experiences and documentation as well as knowledge of outside vendor upgrades. One can only hold so much info in the brain. Dennis's brain is as good or better than anyone's. But no matter how good, it is just one brain and also one that is focused on different daily issues and priorities.

Again, when you have Jimmy Price and Hi-Tech engineers and Lance (owner of SPF) coming to SCOF for input, it says something about the value and volume of knowledge at SCOF.