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Old 09-27-2010, 12:21 PM
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they are all arp.......black

some on the block are chrome
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Nice touch, breaks up the glow. Sweet looking engine!!!


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they are all arp.......black

some on the blovk are chrome
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Old 09-28-2010, 09:23 AM
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Can't get a good picture of the engine with the hood on, so I'll try to explain the hose setup.

It's a 2010 KC 408 street crate w/ an Edelbrock Performer RPM INT MAN & Edelbrock 351W water pump in a Superformance w/ SS 351 expansion tank (no catch tank).

Water pump has a hose from the pump to the heater. The other water pump outlet is plugged (as is the corresponding outlet on the expansion tank neck). Other heater hose goes from the heater to top of the intake.

One radiator hose goes from the expansion tank to the top of the radiator. Other radiator hose from the bottom of radiator to the bottom of pump.

KCR staff said a bypass not required. Told me to verify thermostat orientation and operation, (use 180 or 160) and then drill two to three 3/32 holes in it.

Will try it this weekend.
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Old 09-28-2010, 11:44 PM
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Ed,
I was referring to the picture that Voyager included in post #29.

Ernie,
The Cleveland has the thermostat and the bypass in the cylinder block. In the "Clevor" setups they move the thermostat and bypass back to the front of the intake manifold like a Windsor.

The elimination of the bypass does increase the maximum efficiency of the cooling system, but in situations where the thermostat is closed a significant percentage of the time, it will cause the temperature to "yo-yo".

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The two 3/32" holes in the thermostat will allow some minimal circulation and may reduce, if not eliminate the problem. Bear in mind there are a few million Windsor-style engines running out there, virtually all with the circulation bypass. Keep it in mind.
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Old 09-29-2010, 12:45 AM
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Sorry Jim.

Voyager, if it were my engine I would pull the allen head plug out below the black rubber plug. Put a hose fitting in it and wrestle a piece of hose between them. I did it on mine and never had a heating problems. It's not my engine but it is my two cents.......
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