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06-28-2011, 09:46 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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SPF Ride Improvement
I have the stock Bilstein shocks and springs on my SPF and was wondering if any of you guys had replaced them with anything that rides better.
By better, I mean more controlled. My car seems to take quite a hit (bounce) whenever I hit a bump in the road. There must be a better option. Something that absorbs the bump better and doesn't trasmit such a shock to the driver.
My previous car, an FFR, I replaced the non adjustable Bilsteins with adjustable Konis on all four corners and felt more connected whenever uneven terrain was encountered. I might be wrong, but if there is a way to improve the overall handling, I am open to suggestions.
Many have said the Bilsteins are the best you can get, but I thought I would ask anyways.
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06-28-2011, 10:09 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Pine City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance MKIII #887, drive it a lot!
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I upgraded my SPF suspension last year with new shocks and springs from Cobra Valley that are made specifically for SPF.
There are lots of choices for you here, depending on what you are looking to do with the car. I would recommend calling Randy at Cobra Valley.
Cobra Valley's SHOCK & SPRING Suspension UPGRADE
I am VERY happy with my new setup. Check it out.
Hope this helps!
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06-28-2011, 11:36 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Beaverton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPO 2644 Roush 427R
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I second Randy at Cobra Valley..
Upgrade to QA-1's and install his sway bars. Made all the difference with my ride.  |
06-28-2011, 11:39 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Covington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance # 532, 466 BB, 560HP
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I will also recommend Randy at Cobra Valley.
However I went with heavier springs and milled up some solid mounts for the sway bars. I'm willing to sacrifice some comfort for handling.
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07-23-2011, 06:42 PM
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Location: West Suburbs,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Titanium SPF, 521 CID Gessford.
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I have QA-1's and they are great. Car sits super low and looks cool....
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07-23-2011, 08:31 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #2608, Roush 427SR T-W
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JHV48, how are the new Shell Valley ball joints? I received mine but have not installed them yet. Didn't they help what you are talking about?
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07-23-2011, 08:35 PM
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Location: Buffalo, NY USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Time Machines Motorsports LLC- Superformance Dealer
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Quote:
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JHV48, how are the new Shell Valley ball joints?
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"Cobra Valley" I think you mean |
07-23-2011, 08:43 PM
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What are your current spring rates? You might save a bunch of money simply by replacing the springs.
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07-23-2011, 09:06 PM
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JHV48, how are the new Shell Valley ball joints? I received mine but have not installed them yet. Didn't they help what you are talking about?
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They absolutely did the job. Vibration gone. Steering feels much more solid and connected.
Nothing left to do here.
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07-24-2011, 10:39 AM
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I have Olthoff Racing custom racing Bilsteins on 1061. It's a whole different car than with the stock Bilsteins. Give Dennis Olthoff a call: (704) 647-9924.
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07-24-2011, 06:01 PM
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It depends on how far you want to go. I have mine setup for Autocross. Very rough on the street but handles great on the course. 850 LB springs, Penske 3-way adjustable shocks, Modified GTP front swaybar, this was to make it adjustable (see pic). No rear bar. 285/30/18 front and 335/30/18 rear (Hoosier A6's). If you are doing track days it would be different.
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Originally Posted by jhv48
I have the stock Bilstein shocks and springs on my SPF and was wondering if any of you guys had replaced them with anything that rides better.
By better, I mean more controlled. My car seems to take quite a hit (bounce) whenever I hit a bump in the road. There must be a better option. Something that absorbs the bump better and doesn't trasmit such a shock to the driver.
My previous car, an FFR, I replaced the non adjustable Bilsteins with adjustable Konis on all four corners and felt more connected whenever uneven terrain was encountered. I might be wrong, but if there is a way to improve the overall handling, I am open to suggestions.
Many have said the Bilsteins are the best you can get, but I thought I would ask anyways.
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07-24-2011, 08:13 PM
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I have Dennis Olthoff spring, shock, rear sway bar setup. Dennis also set proper ride height and alignment. Feel every bump but it sticks and is still streetable.
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11-30-2011, 12:48 PM
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So, as a follow up, I replaced the stock shocks, springs (350 lb.) and sway bars with the ones from Cobra Valley. Feels like a different car. Slightly stiffer but more connected to the ground. Small bumps don't rattle the wheels any longer. Absorption and rebound are much smoother. Got the shocks set on number 8 out of 18 stiffness settings.
Much more enjoyable driver now with the new ball joints and suspension pieces.
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11-30-2011, 05:00 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SUPERFORMANCE w DOUG MEYER ENGINE
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Have you ever had your car on scales???
HUGE Improvement right there. Try that first
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11-30-2011, 08:51 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF roush 402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
So, as a follow up, I replaced the stock shocks, springs (350 lb.) and sway bars with the ones from Cobra Valley. Feels like a different car. Slightly stiffer but more connected to the ground. Small bumps don't rattle the wheels any longer. Absorption and rebound are much smoother. Got the shocks set on number 8 out of 18 stiffness settings.
Much more enjoyable driver now with the new ball joints and suspension pieces.
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11-30-2011, 08:55 PM
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What size springs did you go with?
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I chose The 350 lb springs. Could easily handle the 400 pounders as well.
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11-30-2011, 09:01 PM
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Location: Hillsboro,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance Cobra Chassis #408, 427FE, TKO600
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+1 on the cobra valley set up with their shocks, sway bars, etc.
I'm running the 400lb springs and the sway bar in the middle setting...firm, but 1000x better than the crappy stock set-up.
Also get the rear upper shock mount kit while you are there...it's a must-replace item, as the stock one can fail.
Last edited by DanMartin; 11-30-2011 at 09:02 PM..
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11-30-2011, 09:07 PM
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Thanks I'm also up grading my suspension,waiting on my ball joints to come in the mail.
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12-01-2011, 07:35 AM
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You're going to love the upgrades. Ball joints are a great first step. The shocks and sway bars really top off the upgrade.
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01-02-2012, 08:32 PM
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How difficult is it to change stiffness in the shocks from Cobra Valley? I ask because I'm thinking it would be nice to make the ride smoother for cruises and stiffer at the track.
Also, the shock/spring upgrade says it "accepts remote adjustable shock control from the cockpit". How does that work?
Lastly, would you all agree to start with the following order of upgrades for the MkIII:
1) R/T Rear Shock Mount
2) Ball Joints
3) Sway Bars
4) Shocks and Springs Upgrade
I'm not able to do all these at once. Where would a Pro 5.0 short throw shifter fit into upgrades for you? Quick shifting would definitely play a part in faster times at the track and more fun on the street  |
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