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Old 01-16-2015, 07:24 PM
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So with G-Pete's guidance, I plan to go forward with:
VTR-61 Rebuilt Vehicle Statement, bearing the signature of Dennis Olthoff as the assembler, plus the invoices for chassis, motor, trans,
VTR-130U Title Application,
VTR-852 ASE Inspection augmented by the ASE Certification print out from the inspector,
certified weight certificate,
a photo or rubbing of the VIN plate,
3 photos of my car,
1 photo of an original 1966 car,
MCO (whew!)

I'm seeing the ASE mechanic on Monday to get the VTR-852 and his ASE report, then it's on to the Collin County Title Office

I will report back

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Old 01-16-2015, 08:05 PM
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I'm seeing the ASE mechanic on Monday to get the VTR-852 and his ASE report, then it's on to the Collin County Title Office
Sam,
Can't wait to see your car in person!

I need the same form signed. Where are you going to get it done?
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Old 01-16-2015, 08:28 PM
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Sam,
Can't wait to see your car in person!

I need the same form signed. Where are you going to get it done?
Last March for the Cobra, I used:
Auto Repair & Tires - Frisco, TX 75034-4320 - 2665 Main St | Firestone Complete Auto Care

They were a $14.50 and you're done place. I have not called them recently.

Currently, I am using G-Pete's place:
Home - Carr's Corvettes & Customs
{edit: Carr's no longer has a qualified tech, their ASE is missing 3 of the 8 certifications}

The difference is they will charge me a lot more, but I can't let one of Firestone's tire busters drive the GT40, it is too temperamental. They think they have to drive the car and do a panic stop to see if the brakes work.

{edit: Try this Firestone, I had success there today and the store manager supervised the inspection. No one drove the GT40 but me, and I stood by during the inspection. Cost $50 plus tax for a thorough inspection that took about an hour. I left him with a copy of the Assembled and Rebuilt Vehicle Manual so he can refer to it with future customers.

Firestone Complete Auto Care
2105 W. 15th St
Plano, TX 75075
972-596-6600
Ask for the manager: Tim Tinsley }

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Sam,
Can't wait to see your car in person!

I need the same form signed. Where are you going to get it done?
I realize this question is asked of the Dallas area, but if anyone in Houston is thinking about the same thing, I had my inspection done at Freedom Automotive, Stafford. You will need to ask for the owner, John Miller, who is the Master Tech himself.

I had a heck of a time in the Sugarland area finding a Master Tech who would do it. Four shops who advertised themselves as ASE Certified didn't actually have a currently certified Master Tech available; and two that had wouldn't touch the form out of liability concerns. Freedom Automotive were the 7th shop I went to and fortunately I seemed to pique the curiosity of John Miller who seems a bit of an enthusiast himself.
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:17 PM
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Yes, ASE Masters are hard to find. This BS is the result of the legislature just doing a block copy and paste on the SEMA Model Legislation for Custom Vehicles and Hot Rods. SEMA, in addition to being an industry group with a fantastic annual convention, is a business lobby. They wrote the requirement to support wider adoption of the ASE certification process. Thanks a lot SEMA, I recall how we used to wish for some rationality to come to the TX kit car/replica titling process. Well, we got what we wished for

To close out the VTR-63 question in the original post, the answer is: the VTR-63 form is only required if you are using components from a salvage or other previously titled vehicle. The purpose is to track salvaged parts that make it back into road going vehicles. Only relevant if you are re-purposing an old car into a new Cobra. However it is a good idea to prepare the form and cite "Assembled Vehicle" as the prior owner of the motor and trans just in case the clerk insists that the form is required.

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Old 01-18-2015, 06:43 AM
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To close out the VTR-63 question in the original post, the answer is: the VTR-63 form is only required if you are using components from a salvage or other previously titled vehicle. The purpose is to track salvaged parts that make it back into road going vehicles. Only relevant if you are re-purposing an old car into a new Cobra.

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The manual states you have submit the VTR-63, no matter if the main parts, body, engine, transmission and frame new or used.
Better go with a completed paperwork to the DMV - they are very picky with custom vehicles now.

Now two things :
The manual states clearly more RACE CARS (02-2014) so when you submit pictures of an "original" car it is better to submit a "street" version.

Second, yes it is hard to find a master A-1 to A-8 but you have never a inspection anymore! The custom registered cars don't need one.
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you have never a inspection anymore! The custom registered cars don't need one.
That is nice. There is a comment on the form that suggests keeping a copy in the car in case the nice policeman isn't aware of that feature.

That's a good suggestion. Ask me how I know.
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Old 01-18-2015, 08:32 AM
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OK Pete! I will bring a VTR-63 for the benefit of any menu driven clerk that I encounter. Good idea .. be prepared .. easy to throw it on the pile

Yes, I have a photo of a nice "street" GT40 that I am assured was driven only by the little old lady from Pasadena to church on Sunday ...

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Lets revisit this thread when it's time for G-Petes inspection.
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Dang Sam.... That is not a little bit awesome... that is a big bit awesome..

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So with G-Pete's guidance, I plan to go forward with:
VTR-61 Rebuilt Vehicle Statement, bearing the signature of Dennis Olthoff as the assembler, plus the invoices for chassis, motor, trans,
VTR-130U Title Application,
VTR-852 ASE Inspection augmented by the ASE Certification print out from the inspector,
certified weight certificate,
a photo or rubbing of the VIN plate,
3 photos of my car,
1 photo of an original 1966 car,
MCO (whew!)

I'm seeing the ASE mechanic on Monday to get the VTR-852 and his ASE report, then it's on to the Collin County Title Office

I will report back

Sam

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Old 01-21-2015, 02:42 PM
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Thanks David! I was able to find a place to park it also:



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