Club Cobra GasN Exhaust  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Engine Building, Tuning, and Induction > 429/460 Engine Talk

Keith Craft Racing
Nevada Classics
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
Keith Craft Racing
November 2025
S M T W T F S
            1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30            

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-20-2004, 02:19 PM
Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sterling, IL
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1507 427 Dart Block Windsor
Posts: 1,192
Not Ranked     
Default

So, I still don't understand...

Which is better: a small block or a big block?

Lowell
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-20-2004, 02:37 PM
ItBites's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Queen Creek, AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates, Vette suspension, Baer 6P brakes, 540 cid Chevy, Haltech Fuel Injection
Posts: 906
Not Ranked     
Default

BBC rules!!!

Sorry, but I just couldn't help it. I figured I could distract you Brand-X guys from your internal bickering and give y'all a common enemy...
__________________
E. Wood
ItBites
10.69 @ 129.83mph - on pump gas and street tires
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-20-2004, 02:39 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Cleveland, OH
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF1670 Stroked Little Windsor - Runs OK.
Posts: 1,244
Send a message via AIM to MidOHasp
Not Ranked     
Default

Lowell, you're a real a-hole. Man, when I saw your name attached to this thread when I signed back in, I just let out a big sigh. Well, it was a burp, but I disguised it as a sigh.

Everyone knows that a medium block is king.

Hey, I don't know if I ever asked... did Eric @ PE do your 418? Just curious.
__________________
J.P.
Ohio Cobra Club
Token Gashole
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-20-2004, 02:42 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Cleveland, OH
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF1670 Stroked Little Windsor - Runs OK.
Posts: 1,244
Send a message via AIM to MidOHasp
Not Ranked     
Default

I will say a BBC is better than a SBC.

I watch FOX.
__________________
J.P.
Ohio Cobra Club
Token Gashole
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-20-2004, 03:19 PM
Fitz's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wickenburg AZ- PHX, Cinci, Indy before, AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Mk 3 408 530 - 585 T- mustang Dyno at B&R
Posts: 1,836
Not Ranked     
Default

I love it!
__________________
Fitz
fitzus1@gmail.com
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-20-2004, 04:39 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Gilroy, ca
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1452 514" 429 SCJ
Posts: 282
Send a message via Yahoo to LETSRCE
Not Ranked     
Default

Hey J.P. in your 1st paragraph you hit it right on the head!
And I took my Zoloft so I'm doing better also

As far as Byron, I know he wasn't breaking balls, he tunes most of the FI fords here in No. Ca, so he has seen just about every combo out there, that's all.

Lowell, it depends on how big your bus is?
If your a short bus type use a small block, otherwise use a real bus motor a 385!

Ok I'm done.
__________________
-Joe Cloutier
SPF #1452
514" 429 SCJ
Tupperware with an attitude!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-20-2004, 06:22 PM
Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sterling, IL
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1507 427 Dart Block Windsor
Posts: 1,192
Not Ranked     
Default

BEEEBUDDA BEEEBUDDA BEEBUDDA BEEBUDDA...short bus...BEEEBUDDA BEEBUDDA...

burp...sigh

short bus... SHORT BUS

My short bus... I LIKE my short bus...

JP,

That's a Rog on the Eric...

BEEEBUDDA BEEEBUDDA...

Lowell
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-21-2004, 04:33 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Millburn, NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison 514ci, 5sp Tremec
Posts: 100
Not Ranked     
Default

I figured out how to settle the BB v. SB thing...I put a 5hp Briggs & Stratton blower motor in my EM. I sawed a big hole in the hood so I could get the pull string easily (none of that non-purist electric start stuff for me). She handles like a dream on the track (although she fish tails like a mother if yer not careful!). The torque isn't great but you should see the looks I get at shows...everyone runs over when I start it and that stroked 5hp comes to life through the side pipes (I'd quote ci but I forgot the number..I'm now actually getting 7 hp (29% increase!) which for all you naysayers I dyno'd at the flywheel of course...I wouldn't want that chasis dyno variation that we all argue about) Guys, you just have to try it. With this set-up I feel I can take all comers on the front lawn (or backyard)..your choice.


Josh
__________________
jjtarnow

Last edited by jjtarnow; 05-21-2004 at 05:50 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 05-25-2004, 02:39 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: solon, oh
Cobra Make, Engine: WCC 514ci 625hp. 5sp
Posts: 60
Send a message via Yahoo to bibt1272
Not Ranked     
Default

Are you guys giving up? Go with the Big Block!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 05-25-2004, 02:51 PM
Back in Black's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Olympia/Lacey, WA
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast. 514 / 6 speed Richmond overdrive
Posts: 1,981
Not Ranked     
Talking 7 HP?

My Roof brand brush hog mower has 9 HP!

Run ya for pinks?
__________________
James Madison, father of the Constitution, said, "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." He also said, "No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare..."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.standdown.net/index.htm
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 05-25-2004, 07:45 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Uranus, cal
Cobra Make, Engine: NAF replica, 351W, about 420 HP
Posts: 3,046
Not Ranked     
Default

So, What did the school busses use for engines, BEFORE the 385 series engine came out? I would bet your last dollar that those school busses used an FE engine. Why do I bring this up? I dont know. Bored, I guess! Now, my NAF has a "me-too" 351W, and the Cobra is painted blue with white stripes, so there!
__________________
Edley, The Cobra Rogue!

"If you think that you can cut it, if you think you got the time, you'll only get just one chance, better get it right first time. 'Cause in this game you're playing, if you lose you got to pay, and if you make just one wrong move, you'll get BLOWN AWAY. Expect no mercy.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 05-25-2004, 07:57 PM
Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sterling, IL
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1507 427 Dart Block Windsor
Posts: 1,192
Not Ranked     
Default

Why Edley, you cunning linguist...

Is your 351W bored?

Is y'all tryin' to stir up some trouble?

Lowell
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 05-25-2004, 08:06 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: solon, oh
Cobra Make, Engine: WCC 514ci 625hp. 5sp
Posts: 60
Send a message via Yahoo to bibt1272
Not Ranked     
Default

Hey M , bandit, ed ets. how bout some pictures. I like 408 , 351w. 427, and blue with white stripe. Go with the big block!
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 05-25-2004, 08:19 PM
Fitz's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Wickenburg AZ- PHX, Cinci, Indy before, AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Mk 3 408 530 - 585 T- mustang Dyno at B&R
Posts: 1,836
Not Ranked     
Default

Now I have to decide after checking the bank and finding out I am going to need another 1 million dollars to make the 514 run on pump gas.
__________________
Fitz
fitzus1@gmail.com
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 05-25-2004, 08:26 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: solon, oh
Cobra Make, Engine: WCC 514ci 625hp. 5sp
Posts: 60
Send a message via Yahoo to bibt1272
Not Ranked     
Default

aahhh: right... the price of gas! HMMMMM. AAH. yup go with the 9 hp!
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 05-25-2004, 09:00 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: MIDWEST,
Posts: 750
Not Ranked     
Default

Performance engineering out of Ohio builds some "custom" 460 stroker engines (for around the 514 c.i. price...) that will run just fine with premium fuel. They will run even better with 100+ octane fuel, however will run just fine with the premium fuel. These engines also have several other advantages over the crate engines.
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 05-25-2004, 10:59 PM
Back in Black's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Olympia/Lacey, WA
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast. 514 / 6 speed Richmond overdrive
Posts: 1,981
Not Ranked     
Lightbulb I'll repeat again

My 514 runs BETTER on regular gas. It has very mild compression and does NOT need premium.. in fact it does NOT like premium. The power comes from big "lungs" and the cam.
__________________
James Madison, father of the Constitution, said, "If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." He also said, "No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare..."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
http://www.standdown.net/index.htm
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2004, 05:29 AM
Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sterling, IL
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1507 427 Dart Block Windsor
Posts: 1,192
Not Ranked     
Default

Filled my tank on the way home last night for $25.00 at $2.19/gal. My 499 HP Performance Engineering 418 gave me an average of 14.6 MPG for about 50 miles of Interstate driving, five or six trips down the dragstrip and the rest two lane back roads with a few miles of in-town driving thrown in.

Lowell
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2004, 07:45 AM
XXQQQME's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: St. Clair Shores, MI
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast, Ford 460
Posts: 176
Not Ranked     
Talking Stingway

I'm re-doing a stingray, and was wondering if I should put a "385", FE, 351 or 289 in it? Waddaya tink???
__________________
'bacher
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old 05-26-2004, 08:44 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: solon, oh
Cobra Make, Engine: WCC 514ci 625hp. 5sp
Posts: 60
Send a message via Yahoo to bibt1272
Not Ranked     
Default

Nice looking car X how she run. I think I seen your car after it was painted at L.A. col. in can. A ford engine in a vett. now thats a switch. Im sure you raised some eyebrows with that question! Terry
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:04 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink