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01-20-2011, 12:23 PM
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Just looking back at my notes, I originally started talking to Halibrand back in February 2008. It's almost February 2011.
Time flies. 
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01-20-2011, 12:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Just looking back at my notes, I originally started talking to Halibrand back in February 2008. It's almost February 2011.
Time flies. 
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You could have carved a set of wheels out of billet magnesium in that time with your Boy Scout pocket knife. In fact, you're more likely to get them that way than via this thread. 
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01-20-2011, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
You could have carved a set of wheels out of billet magnesium in that time with your Boy Scout pocket knife. In fact, you're more likely to get them that way than via this thread. 
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I'm still learning to use a scissors, so I don't think anyone would want me around using a knife.
Well, I would bet that when the economy starts to rock n' roll again and the lines are 10-20 deep forming at the CA DMV doors that wintery 1st day of January for one of those coveted SB100 exemptions, Halibrand will rise again like the Phoenix.
Or at least I hope so. 
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01-20-2011, 01:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
... when the economy starts to rock n' roll again and the lines are 10-20 deep forming at the CA DMV
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It'll take more than Greek mythology for California to meet its debt service. Ain't happenin'... 
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01-20-2011, 01:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Just looking back at my notes, I originally started talking... [/b].
Time flies. 
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You keep notes on the crap you write here too???
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01-20-2011, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ERA Chas
You keep notes on the crap you write here too???
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Dang Chas., you don't miss a beat do you? 
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01-20-2011, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Dang Chas., you don't miss a beat do you? 
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I happen to like Rod...
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01-20-2011, 02:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
You keep notes on the crap you write here too???
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Actually, I've kept emails of the back-and-forth I've had with Halibrand. I believe I took delivery of my Kirkham in October 2007 and subsequently starting "harassing" Halibrand shortly thereafter.
But there's also a CC thread that dates back to that "era" as well with my name in it.
Hey, lets not bash CA, Patrick, how's your state doing? No not your mental state, I hear 47 of 50 states aren't doing too well financially.
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01-20-2011, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Actually, I've kept emails of the back-and-forth I've had with Halibrand. I believe I took delivery of my Kirkham in October 2007 and subsequently starting "harassing" Halibrand shortly thereafter.
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Did Richard own the company then? I've lost track of the ownership since I bought mine-can you reconstruct?
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01-20-2011, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Did Richard own the company then? I've lost track of the ownership since I bought mine-can you reconstruct?
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You can reconstruct the ownership if you search 'Halibrand' on the H.A.M.B.
I just did it myself recently.
LOT'S of history with that company. 
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01-20-2011, 04:12 PM
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small UPDATE
I just got off the phone with Richard at Halibrand.
Our complete list of characters "is enough" for the run.
He has the coating/coloring process down.
He has a quote from one casting company and awaiting another.
Unfortunately magnesium HAS gone up. Russia and China are huge consumers and suppliers of the stuff. They're busy using it, too. Probably on things faster than a Cobra
We've waited a long time and some more than others. I won't mention names... RODKNOCK
Let's hang in there.
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01-20-2011, 04:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
Unfortunately magnesium HAS gone up. Russia and China are huge consumers and suppliers of the stuff. They're busy using it, too.
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You should have known that was bogus off the top of your head.

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01-21-2011, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
He has the coating/coloring process down.
He has a quote from one casting company and awaiting another.
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BTW, what does this mean? They should have the process down, since they've making wheels for at least 50 years.
What colors and coatings are there or will there be? Of course, besides the Dow light gold.
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01-20-2011, 08:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Did Richard own the company then? I've lost track of the ownership since I bought mine-can you reconstruct?
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I actually started corresponding with a women named Karen. They probably laid her off and then Richard took over sales. Just a guess.
I have no clue about ownership changes. Not really that important to me, unless someone claims their 2001 vintage magnesium Halibrand wheels are worth more than my 2021 vintage.
In this case, I believe in LMMV. Last Made Most Valuable. 
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01-21-2011, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I actually started corresponding with a women named Karen. They probably laid her off and then Richard took over sales. Just a guess.
I have no clue about ownership changes. Not really that important to me, unless someone claims their 2001 vintage magnesium Halibrand wheels are worth more than my 2021 vintage. 
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Thanks for an answer Rod-a novelty around here lately.
OK, I claim my vintage 1991's are more valuable-more mag, less 'alloy'.  They may in fact be lighter than the new batch...
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01-21-2011, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Thanks for an answer Rod-a novelty around here lately.
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A "novelty" is something that is new, not something that "used to be present and is now rarely seen," which I'm sure you meant. Therefore, you be dum. 
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01-21-2011, 10:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Thanks for an answer Rod-a novelty around here lately.
OK, I claim my vintage 1991's are more valuable-more mag, less 'alloy'.  They may in fact be lighter than the new batch...
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Wouldn't more alloy and better purity make them more valuable, more expensive and ultimately lighter?
Again, the question may be moot, since production of a new batch is tenuous.
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