Dissapointing year end with my Roush 427R - Page 6

lovehamr · #1 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by james911pro

Mother, now that I am back from Roush I am starting to lean a little more toward the fact that some things are exagerated on the net and there is no truthful filtre for info being published... and maybe a bunch of people ***** to get free work done after warranty.

In my case, there was unusual oil usage but nothing that could not be fixed. I was really unluckly when the dogbone broke... and the oil problem was nothing that could not be fixed.

You mean exagerated like this:

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Originally Posted by james911pro

Just another quick note, this will be the SECOND rebuild. Because Roush did NOT warranty the first rebuild I had to pay 4800$ to have it redone and get a 3 month "warranty" + my time to re-re + shipping to Roush. So this wll be the second time I send it back.

rgnbull1227 · #2 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 10:53 AM

WOW. What a complete 180 on this subject. Amazing how years of pain can be erased in an afternoon. Whats in that kool-aid?

"and maybe a bunch of people ***** to get free work done after warranty."

james911pro · #3 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 11:49 AM

sorry about the "*****" just a typo, should have said

"and maybe a bunch of people trying to get free work done after warranty"

Yep, what happened to me and the warranty expiration was a result of bad representation from the beginning by my local dealer... they put me off saying it was breakin etc..normal... and I'll take the blame for not taking it to the next level before warranty expired. Roush had their faults don't get me wrong, but they haven't left the table.

Roush are making sure that I am a satisfied customer. I obviously don't have the engine back yet but I sure am anxious.

I am an old fashoned business man and going to Roush seeing the operation, having my confidence restored, getting my engine back on the road and by taking care of things face to face was the winning combination.

My "dealer" will be footing the bill for the out of warranty work!!

As far as the delay, here in Canada our Cobra season is only May to September and I took the engine out in the end of January when I had time.

If I was to to do it over I would still buy another Roush, especially knowing what I know now.

jhv48 · #4 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 12:26 PM

Not me!

FrankM1 · #5 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by james911pro

sorry about the "*****" just a typo, should have said

"and maybe a bunch of people trying to get free work done after warranty"

Yep, what happened to me and the warranty expiration was a result of bad representation from the beginning by my local dealer... they put me off saying it was breakin etc..normal... and I'll take the blame for not taking it to the next level before warranty expired. Roush had their faults don't get me wrong, but they haven't left the table.

Roush are making sure that I am a satisfied customer. I obviously don't have the engine back yet but I sure am anxious.

I am an old fashoned business man and going to Roush seeing the operation, having my confidence restored, getting my engine back on the road and by taking care of things face to face was the winning combination.

My "dealer" will be footing the bill for the out of warranty work!!

As far as the delay, here in Canada our Cobra season is only May to September and I took the engine out in the end of January when I had time.

If I was to to do it over I would still buy another Roush, especially knowing what I know now.

Hello James,
I'm also from the Montreal area and would be interested to know who is your dealer, we both know it's not a Superformance dealer since their is none.
The info would be appreciated.
Thanks.

mdross1 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-17-2013, 04:16 AM

It's issues like this that made me years ago want to do all engine work locally.A friend once went through the same frustration to a point he took a huge loss and sold his car.
At the same time stopped putting faith in other peoples work by building my own drive trains.It helps being mechanically inclined and anal about perfection.
Over the years have heard a lot stories like this one and certainly sympathize with all especially those in the short summer season areas.Also a biker and this certainly applies there as well.

Mike Brasfield · #7 (**permalink**) 03-17-2013, 11:03 PM

For the life of me I cannot understand why anybody buys a Roush motor. I read so many complaints about their motors and their customer service.

SPF1061 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-18-2013, 06:51 AM

James911Pro,
It's a shame it took so long for this to be resolved to your satisfaction. This is not the outcome many of us saw coming. You are to be commended on your perseverance. There is a lot of truth in "all's well that ends well." I am really glad this worked out for you and you happy. I hope you have many miles of smiles in your future!

james911pro · #9 (**permalink**) 03-18-2013, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SPF1061

James911Pro,
It's a shame it took so long for this to be resolved to your satisfaction. This is not the outcome many of us saw coming. You are to be commended on your perseverance. There is a lot of truth in "all's well that ends well." I am really glad this worked out for you and you happy. I hope you have many miles of smiles in your future!

Thanks, I am perserverant thats for sure. I have to admit ( i always try to keep a sense of humour) the strippers in Detroit were great too! LOL On a serious note the cabbies will try to screw you.. good thing we went to that strip bar the nite before.

james911pro · #10 (**permalink**) 03-18-2013, 08:11 AM

I would also like to add that after reading a few comments from everyone here don't get please don't get me wrong...

I didnt do a 180... just a 90.

I had my confidence restored while at Roush, but I don't have the engine back yet nor is it installed and running (trouble free) we are only half way around the bend. I didn't for the 5k I paid the first time.. nor removing or re-installing it twice. My dealer is responsible for those costs as they did not make the problems aware to Roush within the warranty period... and I will fix that with him.

Dimis · #11 (**permalink**) 03-18-2013, 01:44 PM

James, wishing you all the best with your re-redone Roush brother.
Hopefully this time it works as it should've the first time.

But even you must admit:
Where there's smoke (and not from the tires), there's usually - errr, a Roush! Ooops sorry, Freudian slip... I meant - Fire!
Hehe

Take care and hope your on the road soon

james911pro · #12 (**permalink**) 03-18-2013, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dimis

James, wishing you all the best with your re-redone Roush brother.
Hopefully this time it works as it should've the first time.

But even you must admit:
Where there's smoke (and not from the tires), there's usually - errr, a Roush! Ooops sorry, Freudian slip... I meant - Fire!
Hehe

Take care and hope your on the road soon

The most important thing is that I get back on the road trouble free the rest is smoke.. oops dust in the wind!~

james911pro · #13 (**permalink**) 04-01-2013, 08:04 AM

The engine should ship out this week...

twobjshelbys · #14 (**permalink**) 04-01-2013, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by james911pro

The engine should ship out this week...

I hope this resolves all your issues!!

james911pro · #15 (**permalink**) 04-09-2013, 08:42 AM

The engine was dyno'd 5-4-13... just waiting for her to ship!.. the sun is shining and the roads are being cleaned as we speak. I'm getting anxious

james911pro · #16 (**permalink**) 04-19-2013, 07:14 AM

The engine has been delivered to my shop! She is looking great in the crate..no pun intended. I'm working my shifts this weekend hopefully we can drop her in next week!

james911pro · #17 (**permalink**) 05-13-2013, 08:50 AM

UPDATE
Hello Gents, The engine is in, I dropped her in this weekend.. she looks great, the Roush guys cleaned and polished it up like a new shiny penny this time. She started up perfectly after a couple of throttle pumps and is running normally....I didn't see and smoke but she was only idling in the shop. I can't take her out for a few days based on the weather but I'll be back to post ASAP. Thanks for reading and participating!

Roush #1 · #18 (**permalink**) 05-13-2013, 09:55 AM

@James, glad you are back running! Sorry that you had so much trouble getting it straightened out.

@Mike B, here are my answers to your question about why I have a Roush engine:
These reasons apply to my experience with Roush 427SR #444. I have gone nearly thirty thousand miles miles with no major engine issues in over 5 years, completed three 118 mile long Big Bend Open Road Race finishes with average speeds over 105 mph, over forty track days with no problems (including 167+ mph on the transponder at Texas World Speedway), over a hundred quarter mile passes at consistent 10.5 second times @ 130+ mph, and cruising in five different states with three more states scheduled this fall.

My engine has never had the valve covers, oil pan, or intake manifold removed since it was installed in September 2007'

Come ride with the Gobra and Roush #444 this fall. We are going to Utah, Colorado and New Mexico.

J

james911pro · #19 (**permalink**) 05-28-2013, 09:15 AM

I got the first 50 miles on her now that it finally stop raining here! She is running great..NO SMOKE! perfect start up and smooth running. I am still cautious but I am definitely feeling better about this engine. I want to keep everyone up to date considering the amazing amount of participation on my thread. 50 miles "ain't" much but its a good start.

wanab5150 · #20 (**permalink**) 10-27-2013, 12:52 AM

I read only part of this thread but wanted to state that you all must know that there are NO Roush parts on these Roush motors. They are simply Dart blocks complete from dart with AFR heads labeled with the Roush name. They won't tell me who made the cam but I assure you Roush didn't cut it.
I have a Roush 427r with 24K miles and am currently having a lifter issue....several have bad bearings and I am changing them out. If Roush engines are bad then any Dart block motor with AFR heads is the same.

Smedding and many others build the exact engine with the exact block, crank, rods, pistons, and heads...they just don't say Roush on the valve covers. Maybe I've had good luck till now, but for now it's just a new set of lifters. And yes, mine has burned a quart of oil every 500 to 1000 miles depending what type of roads I'm hot rodding on and that is very normal on a 10.5 compression engine.

Maybe I missed the boat somewhere in the 10 pages of Roush trashing but I just wanted all to know Roush doesn't actually make anything on these engines...they just bolt together everyone else's parts just like everyone else and charge 2K more...I did 7 years ago and would probably do it again.