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02-29-2012, 05:39 PM
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It isn't a matter of what you would do with the information---
its just the correct way to set up a car--why even have coil overs if you aren't going to use them correctly???
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02-29-2012, 05:48 PM
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A 50/50 balance is not necessarly the best set up on a Cobra due to the tire size difference from front to rear.
Now you can compensate up to a point with tire pressures, sway bar sizes and adjustments, and spring rates.
You have to consider all factors, not just corner balance.
It's like saying a 650 CFM carburator is the right one for all 302 to 350 cubic inch motors. It's just not true. To many other factors that can affect it.
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02-29-2012, 05:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverback51
A 50/50 balance is not necessarly the best set up on a Cobra due to the tire size difference from front to rear.
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Crossweight. Unless you're only turning in one direction you want a 50% crossweight regardless of your tire sizes.

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02-29-2012, 05:54 PM
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Akfish...as they say around here 'you are my kinda people'. I have started threads seeking advice on many occasions. Such as how to remove the engine and transmission (as a unit or separate), crankcase ventilation, clutch recommendations, etc. Then somewhere down the line the thread goes off in another direction. Example..advice for modifying my side pipes. There were Firefly, Full Throttle, Classic Chamber, Performance Engineering comments. Positive comments on all, more some than others until I elected to go with Performance Engineering and posted my decision then all the negatives came out. I became stupid. End result I was happy with my decision as they did a great job and achieved what I was seeking. I will not push my car cause the street is not the place to do it and quite frankly do not wish to end up in a ditch. My car makes me happy for what it is....looks great, sounds great and when I want to feel my butt pressed into the seats...just crack the throttle!!!
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02-29-2012, 06:01 PM
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But what you aren't getting is that if your off with the proper set up, you can easily end up in the ditch--dodging some kid chasing a ball into the street, dodging an animal, motorcycle, texting driver-----
These cars aren't BMW, Mersedes or even Chrysler 300s---- they are like playing Russian Roulette with 5 rounds in the magazine and the street is the most unpredictable place to be with them--on track is much more predictable.
But mechanical and maintenance work needs to be done properly and according to a standard that is fitting to the vehicle---any car under 3000 lbs , with 600 hp-----
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02-29-2012, 06:32 PM
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[quote=Jerry Clayton;1178729]But what you aren't getting is that if your off with the proper set up, you can easily end up in the ditch--dodging some kid chasing a ball into the street, dodging an animal, motorcycle, texting driver-----
Jeezz, if you can't make these every day manuvers with out ending up in a ditch it is time for driving lessons. Or at least two roll bars 
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02-29-2012, 06:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dont
Jeezz, if you can't make these every day manuvers with out ending up in a ditch it is time for driving lessons. Or at least two roll bars 
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OK, that was pretty funny. 
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02-29-2012, 07:11 PM
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If you have access to the scales, you owe it to yourself to set your coilovers based on the weights. It's easy. And you can't break anything. And if you remember to put the weight simulating you in the driver's seat there's only one way you can do it wrong and that's by forgetting to loosen your sway bars. There's really no reason not to try it. There is absolutely no downside and you can take as long as you want while doing it. 
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02-29-2012, 06:03 PM
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there are some excellent posts by Scott Johnson (Scottj) on here about setting up the suspension, coil overs and alignment issues--it was last year 2011, but go read up on it
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02-29-2012, 07:33 PM
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Well since we just lost a WCCC guy dodging a deer, I don't think its funny
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02-29-2012, 07:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton
Well since we just lost a WCCC guy dodging a deer, I don't think its funny
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You have clearly led the horses to the water, and you only have 50+ years setting up cars, so we'll let it go at that.... 
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03-02-2012, 09:39 AM
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Mine was so far out of whack from the start it was like driving on 3 wheels. I bet windshields can get cracked from this?
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03-02-2012, 10:03 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JBCOBRA
Mine was so far out of whack from the start it was like driving on 3 wheels. I bet windshields can get cracked from this?
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Save your breath. I can't even get some of the guys on here to buy in to checking the weights, much less correcting the imbalance.  But for a graphical representation of what happens to each wheel as you dial in wedge you can download this little program from Performance Trends and play with it.

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03-02-2012, 10:02 AM
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Probably not on a SPF because they 'll twist enough thru the door area that practically no twist will get to the windshield area
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03-02-2012, 12:30 PM
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03-02-2012, 01:44 PM
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I think I'll go over to the local high school (there's a teachers insitute day going on there) and see how many American cars are there compared to the furriners----
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03-02-2012, 03:51 PM
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Thank god for beer.  
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03-02-2012, 04:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverback51
Thank god for beer.  
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... and if you refuse to get on the bathroom scales you'll never know that you may need to lose weight. 
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03-02-2012, 04:55 PM
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... and if you refuse to get on the bathroom scales you'll never know that you may need to lose weight. 
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I no longer give a rip roaring sh!t.
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03-02-2012, 06:17 PM
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D-Cel and Hydramada...you guys are hilarious!!
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