I should mention that the other aftermarket aluminum FE alternative is the block that I have in my car. Shelby makes an aluminum FE block, but it isn't a reproduction of the sideoiler. I picked it for reasons that we all can argue about, but I believe they're slightly more beefier. Whether one needs the extra beef is also arguable.
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
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I have found that the BEST reason to do exhaustive searches is because from about 2001-2008 there were a lot of guys contributing here that are no longer actively involved, and they offered some really good advice on nearly every thing I have encountered. When you post today, you just get us same 4-5 morons that know it all but know nothing.
And YES, you do need a 427 side oiler. It will make your car run fast, your heart race faster, your friends turn green with envy, your bank account smaller and your penis larger.
and yes, you do need a 427 side oiler. It will make your car run fast, your heart race faster, your friends turn green with envy, your bank account smaller and your penis larger. :lol:
So my 427 side oiler I have setting in the gararge will cure my erectile disfunction? Thats good to know as it sure beats duct tape and tongue depressers. LOL. I'm saving the motor in pieces for a Kirkham roller, if I ever get one. Agree, for pissing contest, the only motor to run in a Kirkham or ERA is a side oiler.
Ok, any time I "hear" the 427 side oiler in any of the videos, it just sounds exactly like what I would want my own cobra to sound! Love it! Is the "side oiler" unique in some way or is it just my imagination that it sounds like no other? Do I need an FE side oiler or can I get this from another engine build?
I just love that roar and snorting and burble on overrun. example here.
The side oiler block is just the the latest and greatest vaiation of the 427 FE engine family. The unique sound is the product of cubic inches, compression ratio, cam timing and finally the exhaust system. The side oiler also has a higher nickle content in the casting and is a slightly stronger block.
You can get very nearly the same sound from a center oiler 427 or 428 or nearly any well built FE engine.
The side oiler block is just the the latest and greatest vaiation of the 427 FE engine family. The unique sound is the product of cubic inches, compression ratio, cam timing and finally the exhaust system. The side oiler also has a higher nickle content in the casting and is a slightly stronger block.
You can get very nearly the same sound from a center oiler 427 or 428 or nearly any well built FE engine.
Great if you have one, not the end of the world if you don't. I'd rather spend an extra 15G's on some other playtoy or parts for same. The 428 FE is fine for me in my ERA. (Now, if there were one in the back of my garage from back when they were affordable, that's another story. It would be in my Cobra). Everything in life is a compromise. A SO in an aluminum Cobra is the pinnacle of Cobra ownership, but could run you the price of a small home.
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I believe from other threads that the OP has started that he is considering a Backdraft or Superformance. And while you can certainly install an FE, SBF's are the predominant choice for a powerplant in BDR's and SPF's.
I believe from other threads that the OP has started that he is considering a Backdraft or Superformance. And while you can certainly install an FE, SBF's are the predominant choice for a powerplant in BDR's and SPF's.
Yes, those were and as of right now still my top 2 choices. I don't have time, nor the tools nor the skills to tackle a full kit.. I need a roller and even that will be a turnkey when it comes to me. Unless of course I change my mind and commission someone build me a replica???
What is the main reason for the choice of SBFs for Superformance and Backdraft?
What is the main reason for the choice of SBFs for Superformance and Backdraft?
I believe SBF's are the overwhelming choice for BDR's and SPF's, because, and I'll probably get hammered here, they're less expensive choices than a CSX, KMP and ERA, plus maybe, folks who choose a BDR and SPF are slightly less concerned about adherence to the original. FE's are heavier, less so with aluminum blocks and heads, and more expensive to build.
I believe SBF's are the overwhelming choice for BDR's and SPF's, because, and I'll probably get hammered here, they're less expensive choices than a CSX, KMP and ERA, plus maybe, folks who choose a BDR and SPF are slightly less concerned about adherence to the original. FE's are heavier, less so with aluminum blocks and heads, and more expensive to build.
Ok, makes sense.. Sorry to have asked you to stick your neck out like that but I figured with your post count you will survive intact!
I believe SBF's are the overwhelming choice for BDR's and SPF's, because, and I'll probably get hammered here, they're less expensive choices than a CSX, KMP and ERA, plus maybe, folks who choose a BDR and SPF are slightly less concerned about adherence to the original. FE's are heavier, less so with aluminum blocks and heads, and more expensive to build.
I never understood why the FEs are less popular in the SPFs. But from the BDR perspective meeting a predefined version of a "Cobra" is not the reason a customer selects BDR, so from there on out it's about optimizing the car to their tastes, use, and budget.
One of my favorite BDRs to drive to date has a Roush 451 in it. I get to drive it every couple years ... great engine and not a drip or drop of oil to this day.
I never understood why the FEs are less popular in the SPFs. But from the BDR perspective meeting a predefined version of a "Cobra" is not the reason a customer selects BDR, so from there on out it's about optimizing the car to their tastes, use, and budget.
Obviously having a business relationship with engine builder such as Roush may contribute to the reason why most SPF's and BDR's have SBF's. For whatever reason, there are alot of Roush SBF's in BDR's and SPF's. The Roush BBF's are about the same price as BDR or SPF roller, so that could be just one reason for the lack of BBF's in BDR's and SPF's.
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Someone emailed me this lastnight... probably belongs in your other thread about power etc. Don't recommend this activity in the middle of your city or mine, but go right ahead in whatever city he is in.
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 289 FIA #690, FRPP 427 Boss engine
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The real answer to all the comments in this thread is to get a Kirkham 289 car and put a small block 427w in it with some decals that try to fool people into thinking it is really a 289. You stick to the correct engine/body combination and get that awesome sound.
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The real answer to all the comments in this thread is to get a Kirkham 289 car and put a small block 427w in it with some decals that try to fool people into thinking it is really a 289. You stick to the correct engine/body combination and get that awesome sound.
I like it. In the end, these are just modern hot rods...almost like funny cars with a Cobra body. It's all freestyle.
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it might be bragging rights and lots of money, and yes there are others that can do virtually the same, but the sound and power of the SO is unequalled, I have a real one in my Cobra and it is orgasmic.
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I'm just ecstatic that Patrick didn't wax (on) poetically about his non-427 sideoiler, with mechanical flat tappet lifters, sounding like one of these:
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I need a roller and even that will be a turnkey when it comes to me. 
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