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10-01-2012, 01:53 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Clayton,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 838
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Paint ceramic coating to freshen it up?
My car has silver colored ceramic coated headers and sidepipes. The side pipes are starting to show some wear after 8,000 miles and 4 years.
I am considering changing the color to semi gloss black. Is it better to send them out for a complete ceramic recoat or rough up and paint VHT or some other paint over the existing ceramic?
Have any of you painted over the ceramic and does it stick for a long period of time?
Does black coating or paint stain easy? That is a concern. The silver cleans up nicely.
John
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10-01-2012, 02:41 PM
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Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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As long as you use a high temp paint, Iv'e done it that way before with no problems....
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10-01-2012, 02:48 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grubby
Does black coating or paint stain easy? That is a concern. The silver cleans up nicely.
John
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Mine clean up pretty well. I had a bad skin and sinew stain on my driver's side pipe, but I found that 409 cleaner took it right off.  |
10-01-2012, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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The VHT hi-temp (+2000 deg) black I've seen is pretty flat. I haven't seen a hi-temp satin black paint yet. VHT makes caliper paint in satin black but it's only good to 900 degrees. That probably would be short lived up near the engine.
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10-01-2012, 05:29 PM
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Location: Williamsport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kellison Stallion 468 FE
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i've freshened up mine a few times now.......i use the black over the silver, then i use VHT's clear high temp over that for a little shine...
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10-01-2012, 06:58 PM
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Quote:
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Mine clean up pretty well. I had a bad skin and sinew stain on my driver's side pipe, but I found that 409 cleaner took it right off. |
Patrickt - Are your pipes black ceramic coated?
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10-01-2012, 07:00 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Patrickt - Are your pipes black ceramic coated?
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Yes, but they are flat black -- not semi. |
10-03-2012, 06:28 AM
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Location: Lehigh Valley, PA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Look-a-like cobra POS
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VHT FlameProof Ceramic paint work well on my ceramic coated side pipes.
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10-03-2012, 08:54 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1968 GT350, FFR Daytona Coupe
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High temp paint
My coupe has coated pipes in flat white. I touch then up all the time with either Rustoleum or VHT high temp paint.
The Vht clear high temp sounds like what you would need to achieve the gloss .
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10-03-2012, 11:08 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #298 427 FI
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In my experience the paint will stick fine if you clean the pipes, The finish will fade eventually but they will look better. I do mine once a year.
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10-03-2012, 12:09 PM
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my understanding is this is what they do at ERA...first they ceramic coat then then spray em with high temp paint
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10-08-2012, 06:02 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 351 Windsor
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Try Aesthetic Finishers in Dayton, Ohio If you want them done right. Not very expensive either. They did mine a couple of years ago and they turned out perfect and matched my sidepipes spot on.
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10-09-2012, 09:53 AM
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RE: Ceramic Coating Your Cobra Side pipes
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Originally Posted by Grubby
My car has silver colored ceramic coated headers and sidepipes. The side pipes are starting to show some wear after 8,000 miles and 4 years.
I am considering changing the color to semi gloss black. Is it better to send them out for a complete ceramic recoat or rough up and paint VHT or some other paint over the existing ceramic?
Have any of you painted over the ceramic and does it stick for a long period of time?
Does black coating or paint stain easy? That is a concern. The silver cleans up nicely.
John
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Hello Grubby:
First, DROP the paint can….. Can you post pics of your pipes? By “silver colored” are you referring to traditional Bright Ceramic Coating? Also, what is the “wear” you are referring to? Once I see what you have I can offer some suggestions for you.
In general, Bright Ceramic Coating does NOT WEAR. Over time the aluminum skin may oxidize slightly but this can be prevented by occasional polishing with a NON abrasive polish. We use and recommend Flitz liquid polish but there are many other aluminum polishes.
I suspect you have some heat related issues but I can’t say for sure until I see pics.
Thanks
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10-09-2012, 10:02 AM
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Stones thrown by the tires chip coatings after less than 1 year. That's wear.
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10-09-2012, 10:04 AM
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RE: Ceramic Coating Cobra Side Pipes
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Originally Posted by Grubby
My car has silver colored ceramic coated headers and sidepipes. The side pipes are starting to show some wear after 8,000 miles and 4 years.
I am considering changing the color to semi gloss black. Is it better to send them out for a complete ceramic recoat or rough up and paint VHT or some other paint over the existing ceramic?
Have any of you painted over the ceramic and does it stick for a long period of time?
Does black coating or paint stain easy? That is a concern. The silver cleans up nicely.
John
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John:
The success of VHT products depends on prep and cure cycles. It works for some but not most. If you want to change colors, which sounds like it may be advisable based on temps, I’d recommend High Temp Ceramic. The High Temp Ceramics are good for 2000F+ and generally more of a satin gloss level. The black is much smoother and more of a high sheen satin / semi gloss. We’ve run these in 4000hp + turbo applications with great success. Beyond black, there are about 10 other colors to choose from as well….
Thanks
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