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Old 01-13-2015, 11:03 AM
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stevo7896 - No disrespect taken, no I am not a sales rep for Alloycars. As for stealing intellectual property, I don't know of any replica builder outside of Kirkham or Superformance who hasn't taken pictures, run 3-D scans, acquired drawings and other intellectual property belonging to SAI to make their replicas from, and without SAI's explicit permission to do so. Yes, this forum is an advertising hub for replica builders and motor builders alike - all participate and that is a good thing as it helps "the customer" make an informed decision.

What you witnessed here is a "pile on" mentality that this forum has evolved into. It just takes one perceived leader and the blind followers will hop on the bandwagon. With time you will start to get a feel for the characters of some of the Club Cobra members. I continue to laugh that one of the most vocal detractors of Alloycars regarding "misleading info" (G-Pete), has a Shelby American Inc. manufacturer's plate riveted to the dash of his mustang donor 289.



As for mrmustang (Bill S.), 24/7 surveillance of anything posted here and who knows where else. I found it surprising that as knowledgeable as Bill is on the subject of cobras, that he would turn a blind eye to successful replica manufacturers adept at reverse engineering and single out Alloycars a startup. They are all birds of a feather, it's just some are better at hiding the truth than others.

Bill, the world is a fascinating place, leave the keyboard once in a while and check it out.

Then we come to our super moderator Jamo -

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I don't see that...the member "Alloycars" begat the problems with the threads I had to monitor/close and his responses lead to his departure.

I think it's time for you leave this thread and not post in any others involving this mfg for awhile...seems to me you're own comments (as in this thread) have instigated some issues.
Well first, the Alloycars departure was done by their own volition -

Originally Posted by Alloycars
"Ok, its getting off the objective as I already predicted together with other good sensed members who contacted me already by email.
If someone has good faith and want to participate this project is very welcome and I can be contacted over email. I will see also how to open a blog on my website about us and those projects.
There is one thing I am keeping following:

"A mans character is not defined by talking, its defined by what he has accomplished in his life"

So I will not waste my precious time here. You had your chance..

Good speed"

Your response to this was -
"... If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...well, to be blunt, you're a dick.
Gone forever and a day."

As a super moderator I expected at least some class from you, but then again, if one is to drive a discussion forum into the toilet might as well be from the top. Too bad you don't pull a page from recent Paris news, 3.7 million people "get it" regarding basic freedom of speech principles, you apparently don't.

In the end you will find Alloycars is the company they say they are, will provide a rebody option for current FFR owners, offer new FFR buyers an option to order a FFR chassis and go with their aluminum body ... or just buy a complete Alloycars turnkey MKV for $5k less than a Kirkham roller. In spite of yourselves, the cobra world will benefit tremendously from this when Alloycars injects their products into the market.

It's been an interesting experience, and not without some high points, but no longer an objective place to voice an opinion, so time to move on. For those who have been helpful to me I am indebted and appreciate the info you have shared.

Go ahead Jamo, spin up some nonsense to save a little face, I'm already gone.
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MrNobody: No offense, but your first indication was me and others telling you. Had you been a little less defensive and posted some of the requested info, you could have known much earlier. Same goes for alloycars. Had they been a little less defensive, they would have quickly learned what they had. In fact, look at the old thread and you will see where they were in fact told. Think of all the arguing and negativity that could have been saved.

In regards to the mustang II suspension, I'll assume that is a typo, however, bolting a MKII suspension onto a MKIV would negate the suspension geometry gains from the updated chassis. Yes they will bolt on, but you would be reversing what you just spent considerable money to gain.

Fact is that aside from the body you don't want, the MKIV has little to offer that would justify spending money on it. You would be way ahead to rebody the MKII and take care of any upgrades while the body is off.

Last thing and I'll bow out unless you ask for information. It isn't lost on me and I'll assume others that you have been unwilling to post a single picture or answer a single specific about your car. While you most certainly have your right to absolute privacy, the attempts get information while providing none, combined with some of the defensiveness does raise suspicion. Regardless, if you need a hand on anything just let me know.

Good luck to you on the venture
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MrNobody: No offense, but your first indication was me and others telling you. Had you been a little less defensive and posted some of the requested info, you could have know much earlier. Same goes for alloycars. Had they been a little less defensive, they would have quickly learned what they had. In fact, look at the old thread and you will see where they were in fact told. Think of all the arguing and negativity that could have been saved.

In regards to the mustang II suspension, I'll assume that is a typo, however, bolting a MKII suspension onto a MKIV would negate the suspension geometry gains from the updated chassis. Yes they will bolt on, but you would be reversing what you just spent considerable money to gain.

Fact is that aside from the body you don't want, the MKIV has little to offer that would justify spending money on it. You would be way ahead to rebody the MKII and take care of any upgrades while the body is off.

Last thing and I'll bow out unless you ask for information. It isn't lost on me and I'll assume others that you have been unwilling to post a single picture or answer a single specific about your car. While you most certainly have your right to absolute privacy, the attempts get information while providing none, combined with some of the defensiveness does raise suspension. Regardless, if you need a hand on anything just let me know.

Good luck to you on the venture
Sound advice and well said. I hope the interested parties - whomever they may be - really pay attention to this.
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Sound advice and well said. I hope the interested parties - whomever they may be - really pay attention to this.
Except the spelling. Pay no attention to the spelling.
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Old 01-13-2015, 11:46 AM
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It's been an interesting experience, and not without some high points, but no longer an objective place to voice an opinion, so time to move on. For those who have been helpful to me I am indebted and appreciate the info you have shared.

Go ahead Jamo, spin up some nonsense to save a little face, I'm already gone.
If you leave, then who will be left to defend small block Fords and Chevy engines in Cobras?

Best of luck to you.
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I continue to laugh that one of the most vocal detractors of Alloycars regarding "misleading info" (G-Pete), has a Shelby American Inc. manufacturer's plate riveted to the dash of his mustang donor 289.


Well, you forgot I have the Shelby Badge on the front and on the trunk. Shelby emblems on the wheel centers, even Shelby floor mats
I copied the original FIA car as much I liked - but never posted a picture of a car not owned or build by me as mine.


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Don't show just the dash, show the whole car....(I'm pretty proud of it)...






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Oh, you missed the Good Years are not Good Years ---- that are Avons.
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